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2014-15 NFL Coaching Carousel Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by RecoveringJournalist, Oct 8, 2014.

  1. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Everyone was raving about the Morningweg hire at the time.
     
  2. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Ryan is similar to Tony Dungy. He can succeed wildly if he goes to a team with a star QB and ready-made offense, which would allow him to concentrate on building a championship-level defense.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Not me. I saw enough of his work in Detroit to know better.
    Ryan is best when he has a team that can play old school big boy football or as he calls it
    "ground and pound" . Physically beat opponents up on both sides of ball. He had that the
    first three years with The Jets. Strong run blocking O line and an RB in Thomas Jones
    that could run inside the tackles, move the chains and control clock. It allow Sanchez
    to just be a game manager.

    I see Atlanta as similar but with Matt Ryan a big step up from Sanchez and much better
    receivers. Stephen Jackson could be Thomas Jones.
     
  4. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    If Jackson wasn't 95, sure. But Freeman behind a healthy O-line might work.

    Between the teams he's interviewing with, the Falcons have the offense and the Nines have the defense. It's easier and faster to make a team competitive defensively, so I think Atlanta is the better fit. Kaepernick has very little chance to stop regressing if a defensive guy is the head coach.
     
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Yeah Jackson is a big question mark but so was Jones when he came to The Jets and Ryan got some good years out of him.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I don't think the Falcons have the offensive line to pull off the approach you are suggesting. Also, it goes against the strength of that offense, which is at receiver.
     
  7. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Jones wasn't in the twilight of his career when he came to the Jets. He asked the Bears to let him go if they were going to give Benson the No. 1 job. And the Bears, being stupid, did just that.
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    It would open things up more for the receivers because teams will have to keep more guys in the box to defend the run. LB's
    won't be able to take quick drops into coverage. Jones and White would get a lot of 1 on 1 match ups.

    The Cowboys essentially transformed themselves into a ground and pound type of team this year and look what
    Dex Bryant did.
     
  9. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Yep.
     
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  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    It takes time to build that type of line and Jackson is not even close to Murray's level. He ran for 707 yards and averaged 3.7 yards per carry. Murray ran for 1,845 yards and 4.7 per carry. Those are not comparable running games and a change in philosophy alone will not make up the gap. Right now, the Falcons are at their best with the ball in the air. That doesn't suddenly change just because a new coach might want it to be different.

    A coach should adapt to his talent when he arrives, then try to slowly change the personnel to fit his preference over time. I'm not sure if Ryan has that in him.
     
  11. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    Falcons were 12th in the league in points scored, 8th in total yards.

    Defense was 27th in points given up, dead last in total yards.

    Offense isn't the issue; this team needs a complete defensive makeover. Do that and they can quickly be competitive in the NFC again.
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Ryan would give you a transformed defense.
     
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