Does anyone still think Manning is better than Brady?

Well, why don't we ask him? Oh, wait, it seems somebody did. His response:

"It's a good laugh now. There was just a little miscommunication, 'Am I going in? Am I not going in?' But no, there's absolutely no hard feelings or anything like that. We're all just having a good laugh. It's funny that it got caught on tape. It's pretty comical. ... He went in for one play, and then I went in. So it's all funny now."

If that's really all you got, it only serves to reinforce my point. Which was never that Manning is a perfect angel (that would be a "10" on my 0-10 scale, and he's only a 9.99643, after all), only that you have to really stretch to invent reasons to dislike him. So stretch away.

 

Harley is struggling on this thread.

Imagine a professional athlete wanting to stay in a game and play.

 

What you really want in a quarterback is someone who is looking for another player to take the reins. That's what made Montana awesome is how supportive he was of Steve Young.

Wilson should have begged off Sunday and let whoever it is in Seattle go win that game.

 

Who can forget what a prick he was on the way out of Indianapolis? Just firing on people left and right there.

 

I really would like to see Manning come back next year and win it all, but we all know that's not happening. And it's kinda sad.

 

Maybe Harley hates rappers.

 

Eli beat Tom twice in Super Bowls, so yeah. Of course, the golden toilet and Gisele trumps everything else mentioned here.

 

Manning's fatal flaw is he expects everything to go a certain way once the ball is snapped. He does not deviate from that, and in the playoffs defenses are better, coaches are smarter, the weather is different, so when he throws that 15-yard slant expecting his man to be there and instead it is picked or his man is taken off his route by a better defender or his man slips in the rain or snow, then Manning's offense starts to break down.

Manning will also keep going back to the pass, even if ot is not there. Brady and Pats stopped winning Super Bowls when they stopped being a 50/50 run pass team and went all in on the pass with Moss. You have to have balance in the playoffs. The Pats now have it, and that's why they will win, pretty easily, in two weeks.

 

Manning's biggest problem is that his coaches don't cheat nearly as well or as much as Brady's coach

 

Nailed it. I mean, getting the rules changed to benefit your QB is smart, but it really doesn't matter when the other guy is just gonna break those rules anyway.

 

If you're looking for reasons to dislike some of the top QBs, there's stuff out there... I'm not saying I agree with it, but there's stuff on Rodgers, Brady, even Brees. If you want to hate Brees because of Bountygate, I think that's a reach, but OK... If you want to hate Rodgers for snubbing the old lady at the airport, I think that's a reach, but OK... Brady has more than his share of stuff, none of it that bad, at least not by athlete's standards.

The only thing I remember Manning doing was the deal with the trainer at Tennessee. I can't think of anything since then.

 

"Protection problems" after the loss to the Steelers. Lots of people saw that as blaming teammates, something most QBs wouldn't do.