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2015 NCAA Tournament thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by RecoveringJournalist, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    UCLA was a massive consensus favorite to win the NCAA tourney during the Alcindor/Walton seasons. It was a huge shock when they lost in the semis in 1974.

    I don't know what the exact Vegas numbers were, but UCLA was almost universally expected to win in those seasons.
     
  2. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    You might be right, but Kentucky was defending champion and had a 30-4 record going into the tournament. Then again, Derek Anderson's knee injury probably took some shine off their chances.
     
  3. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Betting on games? Absolutely. Futures on odds on individual teams for the whole tournament? I don't think so. I'd love to be proven wrong. Things have changed a lot in vegas sports books just since I've been going since the mid '80s.
     
  4. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    How is Obama's women's tourney bracket looking? (don't reply)
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Duke in 1992 was considered a pretty strong favorite. Probably more than any Kentucky team of the '90s, and probably third behind Georgetown and UNLV in the span from '76 Indiana until now. Defending champs had all five starters back (I think), won their first 17 games and finished 25-2 in the regular season.

    I'm with poin in that I don't think futures odds were available in pre-Internet days. I thought it was a law that since they could theoretically involve teams from Nevada, they were illegal.
     
  6. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    Yeah. Only lost one regular season game and was jobbed at Mizzou. Paul Pierce, Raef LaFrentz, who people forget just how dominant he could be in college before his knees went bad in the pros, Jacque Vaughn, Scott Pollard all were picked in the top half of the first round, I think. UAB coach Jerod Haase was the fifth starter and played with a broken wrist in the Arizona game. Roy stubbornly tried to give him significant minutes even though he couldn't do anything and he had pretty good options in Billy Thomas and Ryan Robertson on the bench.

    My parents still have a picture hanging over the hole I punched in their basement wall after that game.
     
  7. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

  8. Key

    Key Well-Known Member

    Duke in 1999 was a pretty big favorite, too. Entered the tourney 32-1 after crushing Carolina in the ACC finals. Lost to UConn in the final.
     
  9. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    I got back from covering minor league hockey on my first newspaper job.

    "They lost?" when someone at the paper told me Arizona had won. That 1997 Kansas team was so dominant.

    I had a job interview in Lawrence the following Monday. Ghost town.

    I didn't get the Lawrence job but did work in Topeka the next year. Covering the 97-98 KU team was like covering the basketball Beatles.
     
  10. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    Those two years were probably the peak of expectations for KU basketball outside of the Wilt era. Two years in with a bunch of Danny's leftover Miracles Roy beat three top five teams, including one of those great UNLV teams to start the season. Then he made a couple of Final Fours with a lot of local KC and Wichita guys, a Northwestern transfer nobody knew of and some mid-level recruits.

    So he starts getting top-shelf recruits like Pierce, Vaughn and LaFrentz and everybody in Lawrence was thinking Roy would bring multiple national championships, but it was a decade before he got back to the Final Four. Now Self is getting similar tournament results with similar recruits.
     
  11. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Better than the first perfect season since Bobby Knight's Hoosiers in '76? Nope. It's really not.
     
  12. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    At the start of the tournament, 538's model had Kentucky as 40ish percent favorites to win the tournament, which was the high for the last couple years that they've been doing projections. For comparison's sake, Louisville and other favorites from 2013-14 were around the 10 percent range, at best. (Also to compare - the UConn women won in 70 percent of the projections they ran.)
     
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