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Indiana Gov. signs "religious freedom" bill into law

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Mar 26, 2015.

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  1. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Guy walks into a realtor's office.

    Says, I want to buy a house. My son is getting married next week and I want it to be a wedding gift.

    Then says, my son is getting married to a man. Is that going to be a problem?

    What does the realtor, who doesn't believe in gay marriage and is a devout Christian, say?
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Turning a job down because you believe your customer isn't a sinner is really something else.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I can't answer yet. Does the realtor own a gun?
     
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  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Get the fuck of your high horse.

    I'm as against bigotry as you are.

    Fine. Let's continue to make an example out of the rubes in Indiana. What's our next step? tar and feathers?

    And, where the fuck were you when gay marriage was illegal in every state. I don't remember this being a particular cause of yours.

    And, OK, bringing up nudists is "esoteric". Why? It's not about the particulars of the example. it's about who gets to decide.

    What if the cater doesn't want to cater the wedding between a rich old man and young gold digging bride -- think Anna Nicole Smith -- because he thinks it's gross.

    I think he should be able to decline.

    And, I think he should be able to turn down a gay wedding too, just because he thinks it's gross.

    And, again, let's be clear. I do not think it's gross.

    But, if the law can force you to participate in one activity, it can force you to participate in any activity.
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    He says "If you think you're gonna close on a house sale in less than a week you're out of your fucking mind."
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yes. It is something else.

    So what? We are going to make the decision to turn down work illegal based on the reasoning?
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member


    Yes, and that criteria isn't based upon discrimination. A law firm can decline to represent a pro choice client if they hold pro life beliefs because being pro choice (or pro life) not a protected class. It's a belief system. Declining to represent a client because they are gay, again, depending on the stare, would be discrimination, because one is born that way. The same as with gender, or race.

    A pro-life law firm declines to represent a gay client because they are pro-choice when they represent a hetereosexual pro-choice client would be also practicing discrimination, depending on the state.
     
  8. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    In case you're wondering, YF, Ragu is being pissy and taking out his frustrations because he started an "I'm leaving" thread for April Fool's that was unfunny, in poor taste and a clear sign that no one really cared if he left.
     
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  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    It already happens. You cannot choose to turn down serving food to someone if you don't like their race.
     
  10. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Can anyone tell me the theme of the New Testament? It's the one with Jesus.

    Can someone also point to the number of times Jesus says who should marry whom?
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Look, I believe there is very little the government should be able to force me to do.

    Part of the objection to the ACA was that it required people to purchase insurance. If you can be required to purchase insurance, what else can you be required to purchase.

    And, if you can be required to render some service to a client, under penalty of law, then what else can you be required to do?

    I don't see this as esoteric.

    It seems like the best argument in favor of requiring the photographer to participate is that there are obligations that come along with allowing you to own your own business -- because of roads or something.

    OK.

    But, you could then be compelled to sell your services to anyone, for any event, if that's what the law decides.
     
  12. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Depends on the reason you turn down the job. Booked solid? Fine. Better-paying gig? Fine. Outside your service area? Fine? Because you're a homo? Not OK.
     
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