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Aaron Hernandez -- Guilty of 1st degree murder

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by JackReacher, Apr 15, 2015.

  1. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    It's not standard to avoid the stand. In some cases it makes sense. It's a judgement call on the part of the defense attorney, who then has to convince the client it's a good idea.

    In the overwhelming majority of trials I prosecuted, the defendant took the stand. Sometimes the lawyer didn't want him to. But when the judge does his on-the-record inquiry into whether or not the defendant is freely and voluntarily waiving his right to testify, the defendants don't always follow the script.
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2015
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

  3. albert77

    albert77 Well-Known Member

    I have never served on a jury, but my wife did once, in the case of a man who was accused of statutory rape of his then-13-year-old niece, and they acquited him. My wife said it was a pretty easy decision. They believed he probably did it, but the girl's testimony was simply not credible. She contradicted herself and my wife thought she flat-out lied at some points. Her testimony was pretty much the core of the prosecution's case, and when that fell apart they didn't have much left to prove he did it beyond a reasonable doubt. So I really think jurors do listen to what is said in court and consider all of the evidence that is presented. It's not a perfect system, but I think it beats most any other judicial system in the world today.
     
  4. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    Fixed that for ya.

    You're taking a subset of defendants - those with prior records - and insinuating that the data from that sample applies to all defendants. Putting a defendant with a rap sheet on the stand has extra risks because the prosecutor may be able to impeach their testimony based on the record.

    Last I checked Hernandez had no convictions before today.
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I have no doubt that jurors try to do a good job and think they are, indeed, taking a good, comprehensive survey of the evidence.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I'm insinuating nothing.

    I inadvertently left that phrase out.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

  8. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    So your misrepresenting what the article you linked states is supposed to lead to what conclusion then? And should that misrepresentation be viewed independently from your earlier assertion that it is standard procedure for defendants to not testify?
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Jesus Christ.
     
  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Did he testify?
     
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  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    One big factor in the conviction, according to jurors, was Kraft's testimony.

    Aaron Hernandez trial -- Jurors say testimony of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft compelling

    "He said he was not involved," Kraft said when questioned by the prosecution, which had said Hernandez was at a bar earlier in that evening, then drove to Boston with two friends, picked up Lloyd and killed him in an industrial park. "That he was innocent and that he hoped that the time of the murder incident came out because he said he was in a club."

    "The one part for me was Aaron's alleged statement that he wished the time that Odin was murdered be made public because he was at a club at that time," one juror said. "To this day, we just went through a three-month trial, this is now a year-and-a-half or two years later, and we still don't know the exact time of Odin's murder, specifically. So I don't know how Aaron would have had that information two years ago. Even today, after medical examiners' review, we still don't have that information."
     
  12. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    That sounds like the end of a Columbo episode.

    "Only one person would know what time the murder took place... The murderer."
     
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