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Georgia beat writer

Discussion in 'Journalism Jobs' started by Daniel Shirley-Macon, May 12, 2015.

  1. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    If you really believe that newspapers are dying because of the quality of the writing, I don't think we can help you.
     
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  2. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Oh, and another thing Biff? Quit reading your press clippings. You're getting a bit of a big head.
     
  3. Biff Tannen

    Biff Tannen Member

    I'm not asking for your help? And did I not say it was a mechanism problem, not a talent problem? Did I not say that there are talented sportswriters out there held back by outmoded restraints (paraphrasing)?

    Les: I read that Drape column on Pharaoh at the Belmont and really enjoyed it. Amazing job of capturing the weight of that moment. So, as far as that goes, I stand corrected. I would say, though, that I'm talking about more of the everyday journalism--beyond the covering of news. Sports rarely gives us moments as historic as a Triple Crown winner, but in Drape's case, the journalism absolutely rose to the event.

    What I want to see more of--and what I'd like to bring to a newspaper--is more thoughtful (and, yes, creative) content devoted to issues. Whether it's treating Ballghazi like the circus it is (by laughing at it) or seeing it as an opportunity to shine a light on the NFL from a new angle (say, perhaps, exploring why Goodell is so reactive--the possibilities there are endless), just something free of the hot takes and hard stances, something nuanced which delves into the complexities of why it really doesn't matter what Goodell does because the NFL still has at least ten more years of dominance. Newspapers have stables of talented writers capable of doing just that, but current constraints prohibit them.
     
  4. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    You said journalists are neither thoughtful or creative but they are talented? What mechanism is blocking their creativity that doesn't exist elsewhere?
     
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  5. Biff Tannen

    Biff Tannen Member

    Oh, I got you mixed up. You're the straw man. Typesetting, word counts, management. I feel like I've already covered this, didn't, wait...
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  6. LesJ9488

    LesJ9488 Member

    And I've yet to see explained how you know any of this? Where have you worked and had your hands tied in such a manner?
     
  7. Biff Tannen

    Biff Tannen Member

    You never asked for an explanation, but I guess my first answer would be common sense. Also, the magic of sight.

    Or, if that doesn't satisfy you, because I've talked to several journalists from several markets, all of whom--to a man (or woman)--have said the main drawback of writing for newspapers is the physical limitation of the printed page. It prohibits them from telling the entirety of the story they'd like to tell. Online, of course, is a different matter, but newspapers aren't as well-suited to deliver online content as, say, ya know, online-only outlets.

    Your second question is bit of a non-sequitur, no? Why does it matter if I've ever worked somewhere and had my hands tied <?" asked the dominatrix>. I actually know what you're getting at, but considering your smugness I'm not going to ask your question for you. Ask it properly if you want a proper answer.
     
  8. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    So you can't tell a good creative story if you don't have the space? Give me a good story and you'll get the space. Fucking moron.
     
  9. Biff Tannen

    Biff Tannen Member

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  10. TyWebb

    TyWebb Well-Known Member

    Only the thoughtful and creative writers rely on lulz and gifs to get their point across.
     
  11. Biff Tannen

    Biff Tannen Member

    I think you should look up the word "rely," Steve-Dave.
     
  12. TyWebb

    TyWebb Well-Known Member

    Ok, I looked it up. Now what?
     
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