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People Magazine: Jenner "transitioning into a woman"

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by CowboyCasanova, Jan 31, 2015.

  1. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    It might go a little something...like this.

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  2. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    A quick check under your boxer briefs will snap you back to reality.
     
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  3. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    It's been done, see Eminem.
     
  4. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    They tried to get Caleb Hannan, but he was unavailable.
     
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  5. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

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    You could get into Harvard.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Story about Jenner's PR strategy:

    In fact, after TMZ reported in late 2013 that Jenner had consulted with a doctor about a tracheal shave, Bissinger details how Jenner seriously contemplated suicide. It was only after Jenner had fully come out to her family that she began attempting to change the narrative surrounding her transition. And according to multiple sources familiar with the situation, that campaign began in earnest around December 2014, when Jenner hired Alan Nierob, of the powerful Hollywood PR firm Rogers & Cowan.

    This selection was no accident: Rogers & Cowan has represented Jenner on and off since her 1976 Olympic triumph. (Jenner’s first publicist at Rogers & Cowan? The late Dale Olson, whose client list included Rock Hudson and Marilyn Monroe.) Nierob is widely respected, and he also has decades of experience guiding clients such as Robert Downey Jr., Rob Lowe, and Mel Gibson through rough patches. But more than that, according to public-relations industry insiders, Nierob has known Jenner both socially and professionally since the early 1980s. There’s a trust there. During the recent special Keeping Up With the Kardashians: About Bruce, Kim talked about a 1980s incident in which a publicist hired by Jenner convinced a reporter not to publish a story about seeing Jenner dressed as a woman. That publicist was, in fact, Nierob, a public-relations insider familiar with the situation confirms. (Nierob, however, isn’t commenting: He has refused all interview requests and declined to comment for this story.)


    Once Jenner hired Rogers & Cowan, the agency began constructing a detailed, carefully choreographed strategy to say good-bye to Bruce Jenner and introduce the world to Caitlyn. The first part of the plan focused on Jenner taking back the story by simply telling it. It wouldn’t be hard to find an outlet willing to do so: Jenner at this point was constantly fielding interview requests from reporters who wanted to know what was going on with the celebrity. (Bissinger’s story notes that even the New York Times had made inquiries.) Vanity Fair was one such news organization: The magazine’s chief spokesperson, Beth Kseniak, confirms the magazine “reached out to the Jenner camp last year.” That request initially went nowhere. “They told us that he was not doing anything because of TV commitments,” Kseniak says. That commitment was probably the Sawyer interview. While the network isn’t talking, an ABC insider with knowledge of the situation told us Sawyer’s producers began seriously talking to Jenner’s team in December 2014.


    Behind the Caitlyn Jenner Press Strategy -- Vulture
     
  7. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/opinion/sunday/what-makes-a-woman.html?_r=0

    Excellent look at Caitlyn/Bruce.

    Jenner can use whatever nouns, adjectives and pronouns he would like to describe herself, but honestly, do fake boobs, a make up stylist, a wig, a fashion designer and hormone therapy really all there is to make a woman?

    Call yourself what you like, act as want, present yourself how you choose but there's more to being a woman tha. What Jenner has done
     
  8. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    I've always had a hard time getting past the ole chromosome conundrum.

    If you have the parts of one gender but the identification of another, why is the default solution always changing the parts? Is it taboo to work from the other side?
     
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Jenner and those like her would say that they already had the rest and they just needed to alter their bodies to complete the package.
     
  10. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    From what I have read, and Bissinger suggested, Jenner and he know each other pretty well. Bissinger wrote that "Bruce" was always very tight with a buck, but Caitlyn is more generous. Also have read that trans women typically opt for an overly feminine appearance (gowns, looks, boobs etc.), whether to offset any confusion from other people or due to their own idealized view of femininity. Haven't read a lot about the high rate of suicide attempts among trans people (4o percent) and whether that is due to external or internal strife (the data is inconclusive), whether it's worse for men to women than for women who choose to "defeminize" themselves or make the transition and if this relates to Jenner in any way.
    Transgender study looks at 'exceptionally high' suicide-attempt rate - latimes
     
  11. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Did Jenner get 75% of what a man got for being on the Wheaties Box?
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    If you aren't even going to try to understand, you really aren't going to bring anything to the conversation. I don't really understand it, either, but I'm at least making the attempt.
     
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