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People Magazine: Jenner "transitioning into a woman"

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by CowboyCasanova, Jan 31, 2015.

  1. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    There's more to being a woman than fake breasts, hormone injections, make up and a dress. And it's insulting to women, in my opinion, not what's he's done, but how he's portrayed. Another rich privileged person celebrated for being self indulgent. Now, if Carolyn had to go and get a job to support herself and family after the transformation, that takes courage. Jenner is just living a fantasy and she's being treated as if she invented reality.
     
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Jenner has apparently been talking about wanting to do this for decades. You don't think doing this under the public microscope takes a type of courage, too?

    In Jenner's mind, she was always a woman, but with a man's body. I think she would argue that identity in her mind or heart or however you want to put it is that something you think she is missing. That is the point you don't seem to be getting and it seems you just don't want to try.
     
  3. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    For me, I couldn't imagine having to feel like I was using the wrong restroom, shopping in the wrong clothing section, pretty much being uncomfortable in your skin for 24/7 for 60 years or so because society/biology had a different idea about who you were and how you should act.
     
  4. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    I get it. But what made him think he was a woman? It wasn't physiological. Was it some gend r biased stereotype about being a woman?
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Actually, you don't seem to get it at all. And what makes you assume it isn't psychological? How would it possibly be a stereotype motivating Jenner to undergo such a drastic physical change? You seem to be saying what Jenner claims to have been feeling isn't real, but you don't want to say so.
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2015
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

  7. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]

    BART: Are we awake?

    JIM: Are we black?

    BART: Yes, we are.

    JIM: Then we're awake ... but we're very confused.
     
  8. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    He said "physiological" ... not "psychological" ...
     
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  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Whoops. My bad. That makes a little more sense, but he still isn't even trying to understand why people do this.
     
  10. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that's the way I'm reading it too. This isn't some fantasy. It's a reality he has been living with his whole life. The fantasy was what led him to work himself into one of the most athletic men on the planet to try to get away from the reality.
     
  11. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

  12. Doom and gloom

    Doom and gloom Active Member

    Jenner lost his relevancy when he connected with the Kardashians. Oh wait, that was Bruce.
     
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