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Why I Defaulted on My Student Loans

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    We've gone through this whole argument before, during the mortgage meltdown. "Moral hazard" was a big part of it then too as scolds tried to say people had an obligation to follow that $150K they've already lost in their house.

    The people who walked away from that debt are unquestionably doing better.
     
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  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Forget the ethics of taking money in return for a fraudulent promise. If a contract says anything remotely close to that (because I'd love to see a promissory note that says, "If you opt out," rather than something like, "If you default, or fail to meet your legal obligations under this agreement. ...), on what planet does "these are some things we will do if you default" absolve you (legally or otherwise) from the terms you agreed to?
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Why does it matter what they call it?

    To-ma-to, To-mah-to.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but they can sleep at night knowing they were nice to Ragu's treasured 0.1 percenters.
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I'd imagine it's the same planet where a group of traders can rig currency markets, have their employers plead "guilty" and pay a small fine, and face no real legal consequences.
     
  6. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    The difference is that the student loan guy apparently entered into student loan agreements with absolutely no intent of honoring the agreement. It wasn't a case of circumstances drastically changing.
     
  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Not owing anything to anyone used to be a sign of good character.

    Now it's the earmark of a poor businessman.

    Sigh.
     
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  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Why is that worse?

    I owe student loans. Lots of student loans.

    It was, undoubtedly, a prudent business decision.

    I grew up lower middle class. I could have stayed that way. Instead, I guess I sacrificed character, in your estimation, for an education.
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Correct. He spotted a loop hole in the contract.
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    "Neither a borrower nor a lender be."

    I'd say the country followed that principle completely until poor people started mucking it up, yes.
     
  11. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    Is this true? I don't know that it is or isn't. Honestly. But this feels like one of the ways we idealize the past that isn't necessarily the reality.
     
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  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    By the way, I'm unlikely to ever pay back the full amount.

    After I started paying, Congress passed a "pay according to your income" option, in which I pay about 10 percent of my income, and after 20 years of payments, the remainder of the loan is forgiven.
     
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