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Why I Defaulted on My Student Loans

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    This is a 20-page Rush Limbaugh rant about "personal responsibility." It doesn't work. Change the incentives, and the behavior will follow.
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    In the vast, vast majority of instances "doing the right thing" is in people's economic interest. Societal norms lead to there being very costly penalties paid for those who exhibit, as the economists put, "opportunism with guile." (For example, I suspect some of this guy's byline isn't going to trade at quite such a premium in the future). Even if you take societal norms off the table, behaving thusly can have serious bottom-line consequences.

    Years ago, back when I actually ran a business, I invoiced my customers under "2%-10, net-30" terms (I'd give you a 2% discount if you paid within 10 days, otherwise the whole thing was due in 30 days). I had one customer who routinely wrote the check within 10 days, took the 2% discount, but then wouldn't mail the check for several weeks beyond 30 days. To this customer, behaving thusly was in its economic self-interest. But the sellers in this market weren't stupid (at least I wasn't). I routinely inflated my quotes for things this customer wanted; if, for an ordinary customer, a given order would be quoted at $1,000, I'd quote, say, $1,200 for this customer. Bottom line is that this customer paid, and paid dearly, for its short-sightedness.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    What should they be?
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Have you listened to a single Rush Limbaugh radio show? Ever?
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I don't know. I don't have any data readily available about what might work.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Do you really want me to go find posts here and otherwise in which people argue that the solution for any issue is that people "take more personal responsibility"?

    Unemployment?

    "Personal responsibility!"

    Poverty?

    "Personal responsibility!"

    Ad nauseum.

    OK. Keep singing that song.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I can just imagine the uproar that would result from any attempt to make the penalties tougher.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    That's fine, but I don't know why you call it a "Rush Limbaugh rant" if you've never listened to him. What is a "Rush Limbaugh rant"?

    It means as much as me calling something a "Rachel Maddow rant".
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    That would not hurt my feelings one bit. I watch one show on MSNBC, and it's hosted by a Republican.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Why I Apologized to Sandra Fluke - The Rush Limbaugh Show

    I am huge on personal responsibility and accountability, people providing for themselves when they're totally able to. The government has no business doing any of this, getting in people's bedrooms and mandating that other citizens pay for other citizens' social activities and so forth.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Google is a great resource.

    I just find it an odd reference, since you don't listen to him.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I do the same thing for a business I own. As do most business owners. If you are a customer that costs us some of our margin once, by trying to skirt what we agreed to, we will usually eat it. Subsequent jobs for that customer, though, we factor it into the cost. Which was the point I made in my first post about the guy who wrote the NY Times piece. If the student loan marketplace hadn't been distorted by Federal guarantees (policy!), in a free and competitive market you'd expect asshats like this guy to make it more expensive for everyone.

    Proper incentives don't get set by centrally planning things through policy. That leads to skewed incentives -- such as a student loan bubble with Federally-guaranteed loans that have driven up the cost of education by guaranteeing income for colleges that don't have to compete on actual demand, and which has put millions of people into massive debt that many will default on.

    Incentives that balance the risks and benefits for all parties best get set by people interacting freely with each other. Not by someone planning the world.
     
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