Supreme Court rules in favor of gay marriage

Why can't you just accept him for who he is?

 

Who says I haven't? Like I said, I just view him as an Archie Bunker performance artist.

 

Again: You're choosing to simplify community-fracturing decisions into a benign phrase like " looking beyond your political borders." Why you're choosing to simplify it, I don't know.

Here's a 2010 story from the New York Times.

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Since June 2009, more than 24,000 manufacturing jobs have been added in Juárez, on the Texas-Mexico border, and the amount of tractor-trailer traffic hauling goods through the region increased by 22 percent from January to June of 2010 compared with the first six months of last year.

At the same time, there were more than 2,600 killings in Juárez in 2009, the byproduct of a battle between the rival Sinaloa and Juárez drug cartels, and the city is on pace to exceed 3,000 homicides in 2010.

So much for the deadening economic impact of headline-making violence. The psychological impact, however, is something different.

While the killings and threats of extortion have forced thousands of retail businesses in Juárez to close and tens of thousands of residents to flee their homes for the safety of Texas, border business experts say the vibrancy of the city’s manufacturing industry is due to what is and has always been the bottom line: money. Not even an unshakeable fear instilled in most of the 1.3 million Juárez residents can curb the success of the factories, or maquiladoras, where assembly-line workers earn, on average, $1.60 to $2 hourly.

“Juárez is open for business,” said Toby M. Spoon, the executive vice president of Tecma, an outsourcing company based in El Paso that will celebrate 25 years in business next year.

A shelter operation that provides factory space, employees and legal expertise to businesses with a manufacturing presence in Mexico, Tecma had one of its best years in 2009, Mr. Spoon said. The company signed five new clients and netted an estimated $45 million in profits.

“I have discovered maybe an unsavory part of human nature: If we can make money, and it’s not just too bad, then we are going to go for it,” Mr. Spoon said.

 

I think at times it is performance art. Hell, I think Deadspin has a performance art element to it, and at times I don't mind: Deadspin cuts down to size some people who need it. And there are times when sniffy liberals need to be cut down by conservatives, which is why I enjoy watching the SEC kick the hell out of the Big Ten.

 

Now, this I will agree with. I remember after the last presidential election, I saw at least 2-3 times as many "I'm so glad to see Romney supporters/GOPers cry because Obama won" than "I'm so glad Obama won because I feel he's the better candidate."

And the Republicans did the same thing in 2004, just not as extreme. I imagine a good portion of that (as well as "love wins, you stupid assholes") came from college-age who simply don't know how to be a good winner.*

*I actually don't feel elections aren't about winners and losers, they are about the betterment of our society. I just didn't know a better phrase

 

I will absolutely take that bet, though I might feel a tad guilty about taking your money.

You do have a problem with homosexuals. If you think they shouldn't have the right to marry the person they love, you have a problem with them. You think it is a big deal that they are allowed to talk about their lives openly at your company.

You supported the Duggars, who failed to stop their son from molesting young girls even after he admitted what he had done to them. You dismissed their failure to protect their daughters and you dismissed the victim who is not one of their children entirely.

I'm not hating on you I'm pointing out inaccuracies in your posts. There happen to be quite a few of them.

 

This might be true after the last presidential election, but I think that had more to do with the absolute hatred and disrespect shown toward Obama from Day 1. After his first election, it was more of a true excitement for what was expected to be Hope and Change. And I don't think it is so much poor winners as so many folks so opposed to the other side that they are so relieved they will not have to deal with the other side running the show. I certainly have felt that way in the past, but there seem to be candidates on the other side in the coming election that I would not be opposed to.

 

Is there still a point to being civil to your opponents when political lines have hardened to the point where consensus is no longer possible?

Discuss.

 

Maybe it's no longer possible because people don't feel the need to be civil.

 

Sounds about right.

 

Maybe they don't feel the need to be civil because they know it won't accomplish anything.

Chicken-vs-egg argument aside, we'd all be fools to think it's going to change for the better any time soon.

 

Maybe I should recite some of the quotes I saw on my Facebook feed?

Yes, it was poor winners. Or, more accurately, folks just as opposed to compromise as the folks they claim to hate