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With gay marriage decided, what will be the next big left-led social change?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Jun 30, 2015.

  1. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member


    For you, sadly, it is.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Police and Fire departments have been sued out the wazoo over their lack of diversity.

    Courts have ordered them to diversify. It's been in all the papers.

    They spend money advertising the tests. They go into minority communities and recruit minority applicants.

    Most big city departments have done a pretty good job of diversifying in the last 20 years or so.

    Show me a building trade union with a similar record.
     
  3. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Now you're just being a dick. QYFW
     
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I would think that would be because there are civil service tests for them. Although the cultural biasness of the tests, real or perceived, is also an issue.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You've been reading YF's posts and you think I'm the broken record? That's funny.
     
  6. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member


    I don't have any guilt.

    Sorry to work other peoples' corners.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I think the word you looking for is corener.
     
  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That's it? Your personal experience? One, that is too small. And two, given your proven bias, your word is not good enough.

    Also, I'm not interested enough to do any research. You are the one making a claim you can't support. Back it up, drop it or expect to be told you are full of crap.
     
  9. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member


    Yeah, YF, give me something -- anything -- that I won't blatantly ignore. Is that too much to ask?
     
  10. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Note to self: oop thinks personal experience is worthless. Remember this.
     
  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    So, none of the 17 workplace equality laws I linked to earlier did anything to help anyone?
     
  12. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Higher minimum wage isn't the key to the middle class, that's education. I believe I said making education better is the key for better paying jobs. But I guess you glossed over that.

    No, I'm not an expert. I haven't spent my entire week Googling anecdotes to strengthen my position. But if you want to go super specific in trades, then 22 percent of people employed by trade industries—mining, construction, manufacturing—are in some way connected with a union. That's 22 percent of people who make up a subset that represents 20 percent of the overall private workforce from 2014. Those are government numbers. You should expect of those 22 percent of the 20 percent that 14 percent should be African-American. Is that actually the case? I don't know, because, again, I haven't spent all week researching this topic like you. I can't find the super specific numbers from unbiased sources to debunk the biased sources you keep trotting out.
     
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