With gay marriage decided, what will be the next big left-led social change?

[Ace]

Hate. Only liberals do it right.

You probably don't sell a lot of those bumper stickers, do you?

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

I prefer this one: TINMHITTMAL

 

[Ace]

I prefer this one: TINMHITTMAL

LOL?

 

[YankeeFan]

All signals point to the answer of the original question being "prison reform":

President Barack Obama called for changes to national prison policy on Tuesday, broadening a second-term push to tackle what he decries as systemic problems in the criminal-justice system.

"Mass incarceration makes our country worse off, and we need to do something about it," the president said at the NAACP's annual convention in Philadelphia.

Obama Decries 'Mass Incarceration' in Call for Prisons Overhaul - WSJ

Between this speech, the sentences he commuted yesterday, and the visit to the federal prison on Thursday, the President is putting a lot of energy towards this.

And, the end goal won't be just be sentencing reforms, more alternatives to prison, a reduction in solitary confinement, or even additional prison commutations -- though many more of those are likely to come before the end of his term -- but full restoration of voting rights for felons.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Can't have enough citizens with voting rights AND limited opportunities to advance in society if you're the Democrat Party. #dependenceforall

 

[YankeeFan]

The thing about both "prison reform" and "immigration reform" is that neither will help people in the lowest economic class to live in safer neighborhoods, send their kids to better/safer schools, or get better jobs, but they will both provide the Democratic Party with new, additional voters.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

And the Democrats know that. Despicable, really.

 

[Big Circus]

Exactly. If we can't solve a decades-long poverty issue in one fell swoop, the humane thing to do is to send lower-income citizens to prison for life. It would be despicable to think otherwise.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Yeah, the Democrats just need more time. They've been successfully creating dependence for 50 years. They're not stopping now. Any restoration of voting rights has nothing to do with helping people. The party would be destroyed if it somehow managed to break the cycle of poverty and violence for even a small fraction of loyal voters. A citizen who has improved his/her station in life isn't as receptive to the "Your only choice is to vote for us" message of dependence and despair that liberals have been peddling for decades. The humane thing would be to actually do something more substantive than pandering for once. I hardly think it's humane to be told by the people who profess to care about you that your only option is to turn to the government to fix your problems -- generation after generation.

 

[YankeeFan]

Exactly. If we can't solve a decades-long poverty issue in one fell swoop, the humane thing to do is to send lower-income citizens to prison for life. It would be despicable to think otherwise.

Nice set up. As if that's the choice.

Besides, it was the policies of guys like Bill Clinton & Martin O'Malley that led to the "mass incarceration" problem.

But, importing low skill, immigrant labor is not going to help current low skill, low wage workers.

I also have to laugh at the whole idea of "non violent" drug crimes. The drug trade leads to a huge percentage of the violence in poor neighborhoods, and every drug crime contributes to that violence.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Has anyone ever died from drugs sold by nonviolent offenders? Perhaps some young people with bright futures?

 

[Big Circus]

I trust neither of you have bemoaned the lack of male role models in in kids' lives.