Here's what fast food will cost with $17 an hour wages

I do. I have quite a freelancers and the ones who turn in the cleanest copy and always meet their deadline get paid a little more than the ones who turn in so so copy.

 

The one's I'm talking about are the ones who let's say made $5.85 in 2007 and made $7.25 two years later. Why didn't that increase finally helped the poorest of the employed? Did people who were making $7.25 before the hike want more money, leading to people making a little more wanting more, etc.

Or are advocates of a higher-minimum wage just going to admit it's just temporary fix until the next call for a minimum-wage hike a few years later when the domino effect occurs?

 

The point is that historically minimum wage increases have significantly benefited far more people among the working poor than they have hurt and you have offered nothing that would even begin to refute that very basic contention.

 

Someone needs to look "goodness in their heart" up.

 

That's not out of the goodness of your heart. You value their inputs more than you do the others', and you're willing to pay more to maintain your access to those inputs. Think of it this way: If it were suddenly mandated that you had to increase the per-story fee by 67%, which stringers would wind up getting way the hell fewer assignments?

 

You're wrong. You somehow have it in your head that you understand this stuff, but you don't. It's as simple as that.

 

This isn't mine, but it's really very, very good.

Suppose you stopped by a busy neighborhood swimming pool one Saturday afternoon. It's hot, the kids are splashing like mad, the whole drill. Anyway, suppose you dropped a brick into the deep end of the pool. Would you be able to observe the water rising? If you didn't observe the water rising, would you conclude the brick had no effect on the water level?

Now, suppose that every hour you dropped another brick in the pool. Every time you did that, you again measured the water level to see whether the addition of the brick had an impact. And, lo and behold, even after 200 iterations of this, you never were able to detect a change in the water level from sample to sample.

Would you conclude that adding bricks to the pool doesn't change the water level?

 

I'd also point that there's a skill in even "unskilled labor."

If employees are good at customer service. If because of their experience they can handle the lunch rush with ease. If they can turn around drive thru orders quickly and efficiently. If you reward the employees who are committed to working there and you can cut down "churn."

That cuts down a significant chunk of expense and lost revenue.

 

Agree with that, but going to $15 an hour is just about double. In the past 50 years there hasn't been that much of an increase, so can't really gauge the effects based on the recent past.

 

I think docq is trying to get us arrested for assault with a deadly weapon. Wouldn't this work with pebbles on an empty pool?

 

Just don't resist arrest. I'd hate for you to get shot.