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Slut shaming in the Buffalo News?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Dick Whitman, Aug 10, 2015.

  1. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    So everyone ever quoted in a news story always has a vested interest ... except the bar owner?
     
  2. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    False. Credible, relevant information can come from anywhere.
     
  3. SBR

    SBR Member

    Or else what? You'll continue to maintain the ridiculous stance that a newspaper shouldn't talk to people in crime stories if they had a friendly acquaintance with the accused?
     
  4. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    No. I'll maintain the ridiculous stance that a newspaper should confirm what it reports, before it reports it.

    I'll also add that the absence of said "media reports 'insinuating' Kane was out of control" could possibly "insinuate" that it was all in Croce's head, which could, in turn, "insinuate" that he's overly sensitive to perceived criticism because he has a vested interest in Kane's innocence.
     
  5. SBR

    SBR Member

    Still trying to wrap my head around MC's stance.

    So let's say, for instance, a young African-American man is shot and killed by police in a major US city.

    Newspapers should refuse to print any statement made by city officials, civil rights leaders, or the man's family or friends, right?

    After all, they'd be reporting "unconfirmed speculation from a biased source regarding an active criminal case."
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I think SBR is short for Sabre.

    Maybe your hero will sign there eventually.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    There was plenty of talk on Chicago radio last week about the reports of Kane's belligerence. I presume it came from social media or independent bloggers.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    The accuser is always to be believed.
     
  9. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    How about if one person who claims to be a witness says he was petty sure he saw the cop shoot the youg man when he had his hands in the air and then thinks the cops planted a gun on him. Should the paper print a story with only what that witness says?
     
  10. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ.

    If it is unconfirmed speculation, confirm it or don't report it. Regardless of the speculator.

    The real comparison would be something like this: "A black man was shot dead by police yesterday. But, a nearby bar owner, who donates to the FOP, said the black man was in his bar earlier in the day cussing up a storm." So the fuck what? Would you report that?
     
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    No, PW2 taught us our lesson about that.

    But you can't really believe that, from a journalism standpoint, regurgitating the bar owner/paisan's version was the right thing to do.

    IIRC SkyBar was the restaurant that catered the event at Kane's house once it became clear that he shouldn't do public events (the first of which was scheduled at, yes, SkyBar).
     
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  12. SBR

    SBR Member

    No dice. I'm a basketball/baseball guy. I couldn't pick Patrick Kane out of a lineup, police or otherwise.

    Actually the comparison I made is 100 percent consistent with your original stricture. You're just trying to deflect off of it.
     
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