Rachel Dolezal 2.0, #BlackLivesMatter Activist Shaun King is White

[SoloFlyer]

I know it happens. Of course it does. But you said it was common.

How do you define common?

Common enough that there has been an important legal decision and sections of legal advice about it. Common enough that you can Google the topic and find tens - if not hundreds - of thousands of sites discussing the issue.

 

[LongTimeListener]

What does it matter if it's common? The question is whether it's the case here.

In the Rachel Dolezal case, the reporter talked to Dolezal's parents. That would have been a good move here.

 

[SoloFlyer]

Let's look at the spin he puts on his failed lawsuit as well:

I had fractures in my face and ribs, but most badly damaged was my spine. I ended up having three spinal surgeries and missed 20 months of school over it. My entire family endured this deeply painful time in my life ranging from the surgeries, the brutal recovery, physical therapy, and professional counseling. It was rougher than my words will ever do justice. Many people have said that in the police report it listed me as white—as if I checked the box and that was some deep admission. Today, that officer admitted to the New York Times that I never said I was white, but that he assumed so when he saw my mother. He and the school badly mishandled my case. We sued the school system for years because of their mishandling of it. They fought it tooth and nail and my mother and I eventually just gave up on it.

Should I believe this at face value too?

So, he was wronged, the school mishandled it, and they just dropped it?

I call bull shirt. You don't drop a good lawsuit. A lawyer, looking at getting 33% of a judgement wouldn't drop it.

Maybe he just had a bad case and/or brought a frivolous lawsuit. Maybe the facts weren't on his side.

Or maybe the lawyer encouraged them to drop it after it made no progress because it's a small town in Kentucky where the legal system may have actually worked against them. Or maybe the cost of continuing the suit was no longer worth the potential reward.

 

[YankeeFan]

Absolutely agree. But again, I'm curious, wouldn't the easiest way to shut up the Breitbarts AND keep the media off his mother's doorstep be to simply have a DNA test done? Simply announcing "I'm not gonna talk about it anymore!!" ain't gonna spare his mom from scrutiny/questioning nearly as well as that would.

Breitbart would have had no story if he had given them this story when they asked, and presented them with some evidence.

If he had cooperated with them, what would they have run?

So, if he's telling us the truth, why wouldn't he have just done that, instead of letting this all erupt, and then have to deal with it? Why would he put his mother thought this?

This all sounds like a defense he came up with after the fact.

 

[Stoney]

His mom told him it was a black man. But not who that black man was. It could have been one single person who she just doesn't want to reveal. Or she could have had multiple partners and is unsure which of those black men it is.

Or maybe she knows who it is and that man is dead. Or has a family elsewhere, and she doesn't feel like dragging them into this. Or maybe it was an affair with a married black man. There are any number of logical reasons to not subject people to a paternity test.

I'm not sure what your point is here. You do realize they have tests today that can reveal a person's African genetic lineage without identifying the specific parent, right? If the father was a light-skinned African American, there are tests that can prove that fact, and without any need to reveal his exact identity. And then the Breitbarts will have been conclusively beaten down and his family spared future scrutiny. Presuming he's telling the truth, seems to me like the win win answer for him.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

He says he doesn't know who his father is? Good enough for me -- he's black.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I hope you guys understand how incredibly invasive it is to ask someone to submit to a DNA test for the world to see.

Jesus Christ already.

 

[YankeeFan]

Or maybe the lawyer encouraged them to drop it after it made no progress because it's a small town in Kentucky where the legal system may have actually worked against them. Or maybe the cost of continuing the suit was no longer worth the potential reward.

Yeah, I'm sure that's it.

That multi-million dollar suit, let's just drop it.

 

[Songbird]

YF is going to be right here.

His questions and examples pass a smell test so much better than anything King is offering. And yet here we are doing the guilty till proven innocent thing.

 

[Songbird]

I hope you guys understand how incredibly invasive it is to ask someone to submit to a DNA test for the world to see.

Jesus Christ already.

Your indignation is warranted but this is the world we live in.

 

[YankeeFan]

YF is going to be right here.

His questions and examples pass a smell test so much better than anything King is offering. And yet here we are doing the guilty till proven innocent thing.

It's all absurd.

He identifies as black. That's fine with me.

But for him say, "I've never made a big deal about my race," is just nonsense.

And, it's his fellow travelers in the #BlackLivesMovement who would be most upset with him if it turns out that both of his birth parents are white. Race is everything to them.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Well, yeah. People who are crusading for racial justice do tend to prioritize race. I mean, I know you can't understand why people would have a different experience than you with cops or hiring or anything else, but that is kind of an important factor there.