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Rachel Dolezal 2.0, #BlackLivesMatter Activist Shaun King is White

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Aug 20, 2015.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I'm getting a kick out of the indignant calls for apologies too.

    OK, let's say King is now telling the truth about his parentage. Cool.

    But, if you now want to demand apologies, don't you need to prove that you are right, not just make an assertion as King did?



    What we're seeing here is a classic tactic of the left. They've proven nothing about the Breitbart story to be false.

    Instead of presenting evidence that it is false, they just declare it to be false, demand that the discussion come to an end, demand apologies, and declare King to be brave:

     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Sure. But then why say, "I've never made a big deal about my race?"

    It's an absurd statement.

    Race defines him -- purposely.
     
  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    That's true. He is flailing there.
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I guess the only birth certificates Breitbart doesn't put complete faith in are the ones from Hawaii.
     
  5. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    I do get that, but you know, he really doesn't even need to have it publically done. He could do it privately/secretly and only reveal the results if favorable, nothing to lose.

    I guess my point is this: the thing that makes me reluctant to wholly buy into his story is the fact that so many of the disputed claims here seem so easily provable, but such proof not yet given. Examples:

    --It's disputed whether he actually had the massive injuries and three spinal surgeries? Well, hell, that's something he should easily be able to prove simply by obtaining some medical records. The rest of us are barred from getting them, but he certainly could if he wanted to.

    --It's disputed whether actually forced to miss 180 days of school? Easy, he should be able to obtain his school records and prove that up with little problem.

    --He made a disputed claim that his incident was one of the state's first registered hate crimes? Well, then it should be Ky public record anyone could look up.

    --And, yeah, the primary dispute over whether he had a black father is also one he could prove if he wanted to simply by having some genetic testing done.

    If he produced just one such item of documentary proof it would go a loong way toward convincing the remaining skeptics, and it would bury the Breitbarts. But he's still only really given us self serving words and claims by he and a couple others who I presume are likely his friends.
     
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  6. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    The movement is bigger than the truth.
     
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  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Let's just propose for a moment that both of King's birth parents are white, and he knows they are both white.

    If this was the case, how would you expect King, a leading member of the #BlackLivesMatter movement, to respond to the Breitbart story?

    Would you expect him to admit to the story?

    Or would you expect him to act exactly like he's acting now? Deny the story. Offer no evidence to refute it. Attack the messenger. Take no questions. Reach out to friends in the media like Joy Reid, and have them act as surrogates on your behalf.
     
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  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    He's denying it, thereby proving it.

    That's Conspiracy Theory 101.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Is there anything better than Gawker climbing atop their high horse to sneer at Breitbart:

    Yesterday, the nativist website Breitbart.com alleged that the anti-racism activist Shaun King had repeatedly and willfully misrepresented his racial background for money and publicity, highlighting the fact that King’s 1979 birth certificate indicates he was born to two white parents (instead of a “Caucasian mother and an African-American father,” as a 2012 profile of King noted). But now MSNBC correspondent Joy Reid is reporting—and King has since confirmed in an essay for DailyKos—a crucial bit of context: The father listed on the certificate, Jeffery Wayne King, is not the activist’s biological father.

    Breitbart’s Racist Story About Shaun King Has Completely Imploded

    Gawker ought to be embarrassed by this very post. They've done no reporting -- and neither did Joy Reid. TO declare the Breitbart story false, and rely on King's own "confirmation" is laughable.

    Do some original reporting. Talk to someone other than King, who has every reason to lie if the Brietbart story is true.

    Reid should also be embarrassed by her "reporting":

    I did talk to Shaun. I can tell you that Shaun King is biracial. There is no reason to doubt that he is biracial. The stories about what he said regarding getting his scholarship, etc, I think you have to consider the source. I don’t think they’re credible absent any actual reporting.

    The story essentially is that the two people who are listed on Shaun King’s birth certificate, his mom and his dad, his mother is his biological mother, the man listed on his birth certificate is not his biological father.


    "I can tell you." "There is no reason to doubt." Based on what Joy? King's word?

    All she does is try and attack the messenger.

    Only ones side in this affair has offered any proof, and it's not King.
     
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  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Oh, he denied it. He just offered no proof, and hasn't taken any questions.

    Telling the truth is really easy. Why does it look so hard for him?
     
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  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    The burden is on Breitbart, a burden they fell laughably short of. If this weren't someone you disliked so much politically, you would consider the officer's statement to grounds for complete disqualification of the story.
     
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  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    They provided state records, that are not in dispute, that show both of his parents to be white. I'm not sure how that's "laughably short".

    If King's father is a light skinned black man, why doesn't he say so?

    Why does he word it so oddly here:

    I have been told for most of my life that the white man on my birth certificate is not my biological father and that my actual biological father is a light-skinned black man.

    What's with the, "I have been told," stuff? He's giving himself built in deniability for when it's eventually shown that there is no light skinned black father.
     
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