Journalists shot, killed in Virginia during live shot

Convenient to not "believe it's a life." That alone is disgusting. This ain't Greek mythology. You don't carry around a block of stone until one day it magically becomes life. An abortion stops a beating heart. If you can justify that with some made-up belief, well, that's the kind of person you are.

 

Oh, and at the risk of a horrific threadjack, if it isn't a "life," what the fuck is it exactly?

That "clump of cells," as some of my friends like to call it, isn't going to magically become a spoon or a chainsaw.

 

Careful. JC will be along any second now to tell you to STFU.

 

So family members who have doctors pull the plug on their brain-dead loved ones are committing murder in your book?

 

I am 100 percent anti-abortion.
HOWEVER, and this is a big however, I am also 100 percent against forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy to term that she does not want to.
And I think that's where your opinion becomes invalid to me.
Any person who sits here and harps on how horrific it is for a woman to be able to have an abortion is, essentially, saying that if they were in charge they would force that woman to carry a baby that she did not want, that she might not be able to care for, all in the name of some religious figure that she may not believe in or just so you can feel better about yourself.
Abortion is not an ideal situation. No one is PRO- abortion. But I'll be god damned if I'm going to pretend I'm morally superior enough to start telling people what they can and can't do with their bodies.
Don't like abortion? Don't have one. It's not against the law. Killing and murdering living, breathing, already born human beings is.

 

No more aggravating than how so many people who post that banning guns won't end their existence, yet believe that banning abortion would magically end its existence.

 

I am 17 percent anti-abortion.

 

You can be against abortion for reasons that have nothing to do with religion.

And, all of our laws involve imposing our collective morality.

No one ever says their 100% against child porn, but that they're also 100% against making it illegal.

The best part about your take is that you do think you're morally superior to people who support outlawing what they believe to be murder.

 

As for the Virginia killer, he was clearly motivated by racial hatred.

How do we know this? From his own words!

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

Sources say Flanagan's firearm was legally purchased from a Virginia gun store.

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."

It is unclear whose initials he is referring to. He continues, “As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!”
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“Yes, it will sound like I am angry," he writes in his manifesto. "I am. And I have every right to be. But when I leave this Earth, the only emotion I want to feel is peace....”

“The church shooting was the tipping point…but my anger has been building steadily...I’ve been a human powder keg for a while…just waiting to go BOOM!!!!”

He chronicles the "tough times" he's faced, including some "financial crashes." He says he used to work as a male escort but, "I am proud of it" because he "made thousands."

" tried to pull myself up by the bootstraps," but, "The damage was already done and when someone gets to this point, there is nothing that can be said or done to change their sadness to happiness. It does not work that way. Meds? Nah. It's too much."

"And then, after the unthinkable happened in Charleston, THAT WAS IT!!!"

After Shooting, Alleged Gunman Details Grievances in 'Suicide Notes'

He'd wanted to kill some white folks for a while. Dylann Roof was his "tipping point".

 

I don't think I'm morally superior to anyone. I don't think I'm better, smarter or more compassionate to anyone. I'm just me. And I also respect women enough to know that (almost) none of them arrive at abortion by choice. If they're considering going that route, they're having enough of a hard time in their lives as it is. I prefer not to compound that further by pointing my finger in their faces and shaming them but, hey, to each his own.
Abortion may be a sin. There may be a heaven and hell. If there is, those women will have to answer to that. But in the meantime? Respect their choices and mind your business.

 

I apologize.

Heading read your latest response, it's clear that you don't believe yourself to be morally superior to anyone.

LOL.

 

I'm not arguing with you. I'm explaining why Hokie's argument has no traction with pro-choices.