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Donald Trump: Come Kiss the Ring

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Dec 5, 2011.

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  1. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Reagan was off in a padded room eating pablum or something and playing with stuffed dolls. The deal was done by George Shultz and the rest of Reagan's spook brigade.

    The proof was self-evident on Jan. 20, 1981. A deal was done.
     
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  3. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    They were released 20 minutes after Reagan was inaugurated.

    20 minutes.

    That doesn't appear the least bit strange to you?
     
  4. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Yeah and 41% to 50.5 % is not close. FDR vs. Willkie was 54.7 to 44.8. Was that considered close?
     
  5. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    in normal conversation yankeefan, how often do you lol?
     
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  6. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    "LOL. You're a dummy."
     
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    So let me get this right ... A deal was in place to keep the hostages in captivity so as to ensure Reagan's victory (which occurred, if I recall correctly, in November). And this deal was managed so cleverly that the only evidence for it is the obvious timing of the hostages' release. Thus, we have the strange circumstance in which the conspirators were simultaneously brilliant (because they managed to keep it quiet) and moronic (because they didn't realize a release on Jan. 20 would be suspicious). That about sum it up?

    #smarterthanaynrand
     
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  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    So, you're a believer in Starman's theory too Baron?

    Who else believes this?
     
  9. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member

    So, the Boomers had the counter culture and Nixon to hash over for 40 years.

    The Gen X'ers won't shut the fuck up about Reagan and Clinton even after one is dead and the other's been neutered.

    What are the two tired tropes my generation are going to argue pointlessly over for 30 years? Obama and Trump? Obama isn't compelling enough. President Trump could at least give us the argument over whether WWIII started when Trump called Putin ugly or when Trump called Putin a total loser.
     
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  10. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    1. Team Reagan didn't care how it looked; they figured once the old fart was sworn in -- actually, once the election results were in -- there was nothing anybody could do about it and they could clamp down and control the message. For the most part they were right.

    2. The assassination attempt a month later pulled the plug on any even remotely critical or skeptical coverage of Reagan and his minions and the entire media turned into Pom-Pom waving slobbering sycophants. Any thought of anybody digging into the October Surprise vanished like a fart in the wind in the media stampede to canonize Reagan as a bulletproof superman.

    3. The Iranians had a particular desire to fuck Carter and his legacy. They wanted to make it official the hostages had not been released while he was still in office.
     
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  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the link Jay! Since you posted it twice, I guess you really want a reply.

    So, while first putting you in the believer category, along with Starman and Baron, let's take a look at it.

    Since you apparently believe his claim about the "October surprise", can I assume you also find the rest of the article credible? If not, then why do you find this one claim credible.

    And, for those on the board who won't click on your link, why don't you tell us what the former President of Iran, who was not a party to the deal, and didn't know about it at the time, presents as evidence of the deal?
     
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