Donald Trump: Come Kiss the Ring

I've never enjoyed the mocking of Reagan's age more than I do at this very moment.

Reagan was 69 when he was sworn into office for his first term.

How does that compare to the leading Democrats running for President?

Hillary Clinton will be 69 on inauguration day.

Bernie Sanders will be 75 on inauguration day.

Joe Biden will be 74 on inauguration day.

And, if for some reason they have to turn to John Kerry as their nominee, he will be 73 on inauguration day.

 

This is funny too. America was weak under Carter. Iran was able to use this weakness to project strength to its population.

Why in the world would they want a failure of a President like Carter out in favor of Reagan?

 

My guess is Reagan had no direct knowledge of any pre-election negotiations but no one is alleging that Reagan personally worked out a deal.

Is it possible that someone connected to Reagan' campaign talked to someone in Iran about the hostages? I'd wager folding money that happened. Did they work out some deal? Probably not but if they did it is vastly more believable that they came to some understanding than, say, Carter authorizing the CIA to start a fake movie production company to film a fake Star Wars knockoff in Iran as a plan to get hostages put out of the country. And that not only did that happen, but it was also successful.

It was a weird time.

Also being 69 in 1980 is a vastly different thing than being 69 in 2015. That is, to borrow an old phrase, inarguable among the sane.

 

So, there's no proof, Reagan probably wasn't personally involved, and in fact probably didn't even know about it, but it probably happened.

Sounds good.

I do also love how guys like Reagan and Bush are such total dummies, but they were both able to outsmart their Democrat opponents on their way to winning to terms in office.

 

I'm just saying it looks like a really strange coincidence. I mean, of all the days and times for them to be released.

Which also brings me back to the other point of government actions creating conspiracy theories. Thanks for finding another example.

 

So, you're "just asking questions"?

Still makes you sound just like a 9/11 truther, a birther, a Holocaust denier, or the folks that drive smallpotatoes over the edge by "asking questions" about recent shootings.

 

Holocaust deniers are just idiots who can't take the fact that their white supremacist bullshit was proven crazy. Birther were assholes who weren't satisfied even when the birth certificate was shown. Both of which have one thing in common: People who ignore accepted evidence.

Was there evidence that Bush was connecting 9/11 to Iraq? Certainly. Look at any number of speeches. Does that mean government was behind 9/11? Nope. But from the way that Bush and company were reacting afterward, they sure gave the conspiracy truthers some ammunition. No Iraq, no conspiracy theory. No Mission Accomplished. No conspiracy theory. No "Republican permanent majority". No conspiracy theory. No questioning patriotism and loyalty of critics. No conspiracy theory.

 

I don't know what any of that is supposed to mean.

But, I'll continue to include you and Jay, along with Starman, as believers in the "October Surprise" theory.

 

Because Team Reagan was willing to make deals. Again, the real payoff came a few years later with Iran-Contra.

 

The payoff for whom?

Which side in this supposed deal still had a favor owed to them?

Also, if Reagan wasn't personally involved, how would the Iranians have any confidence that the people they were dealing with would be in a position of power at some future date in a Reagan Presidency that they would be able to make good on future payments or deals?

 

The Western allies were all "holocaust deniers" when the atrocities were first reported by the Red Army. The 'ol "If we didn't witness/invent it, it didn't happen" mode of thought.