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Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, Aug 13, 2015.

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  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Shit, me and YF were on the same wavelength on that one!
     
    doctorquant, Oct 6, 2015
    #277
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  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Get your money out now, or you're going to be left hanging when the Feds do their Black Friday like they did with the poker sites.
     
    poindexter, Oct 6, 2015
    #278
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  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    That's not what you said.

    You said that states shouldn't run them as monopolies.
     
    Dick Whitman, Oct 6, 2015
    #279
  4. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Lotteries and gambling have funded this country since the country was just colonies. That ship's sailed.
     
    TheSportsPredictor, Oct 6, 2015
    #280
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Casino gambling is another one. Not only does the government get a large share of the revenue, but because they grant limited licenses, the whole process is ripe for corruption.

    If I recall, corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff had clients on both sides of the issue. In some cases he was pushing for new casino licenses for Indian tribes, in others, he was lobbying against new licenses to protect his clients who already had them.

    Even the whole, "Donald lobbied Jeb for Florida Casinos" thing is tied into all of this. As a big operator of Atlantic City Casinos, Trump didn't want to see new casinos pop up in Connecticut or elsewhere, that could compete for his clients. But, if Florida was going to grant licenses to the Seminole Tribe, he wanted to be a part of it.

    Sheldon Adelson is a casino magnet, but spends millions to fight internet gambling.

    If lotteries, and casinos are going to be legal, anyone (without a criminal background) should be able to operate one.
     
    YankeeFan, Oct 6, 2015
    #281
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I think you're confusing them with alcohol.
     
    YankeeFan, Oct 6, 2015
    #282
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Of course I said that. When a state outlaws an area of commerce and then makes itself the sole provider, it *has* given itself a monopoly. I expressed the opinion that state governments shouldn't coopt a good or service that way.

    In any case. ... Your posts that I am talking about -- where you were paternalistic about poor people and their money -- had zero to do with that.
     
    The Big Ragu, Oct 6, 2015
    #283
  8. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    TheSportsPredictor, Oct 6, 2015
    #284
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Correct. You don't think they should be a sole provider. I don't think they should be a provider at all.
     
    Dick Whitman, Oct 6, 2015
    #285
  10. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Should others be allowed to provide them, DW? And, if so, should the state tax the profits? If you say yes to both of these, you're not really arguing with Ragu.
     
    doctorquant, Oct 6, 2015
    #286
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I don't believe that is a role a state government should be playing either.

    But that has zero to do with anything -- or at least your posts on that other thread that were pretty different from your tone on this thread about people making choices for themselves about how to spend (or gamble) their money. On that thread, poor people were too stupid to know what was good for them -- i.e. spending money "irresponsibly." Being "exploited." On this thread it's people having fun, and a bunch of kiljoys trying to take it away from them. It stuck out to me.
     
    The Big Ragu, Oct 6, 2015
    #287
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Of course, that's not what you said on the other thread. You said the state shouldn't have a monopoly on lotteries. If you said the state shouldn't be involved in them at all, I wouldn't have argued with you.
     
    Dick Whitman, Oct 6, 2015
    #288
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