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Mass shooting on campus in Oregon

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Gator, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Half the quarterbacks in the NFL would be shot by their fans.
     
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  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Well, as -- I believe -- you've pointed out, we really have two problems, and they're only related tangentially.

    The problem that gets the most attention is "mass shootings". White people get really upset when other white people get shot.

    While mass shootings are tragic, and shocking, the victims of mass shootings make up a small fraction of the victims of gun violence.

    The other problem is street/drug/gang violence.

    I suppose we could also list domestic violence and suicide as additional problems.

    But, most of the proposals to reduce gun violence will do very little to stop any of these problems, but will add additional restrictions to law abiding citizens.

    The fact is that Stop, Question, and Frisk was the most effective measure in reducing gun violence that America has seen in the last quarter century, and it's under attack.

    Aggressive police tactics, and incarcerating criminals led to a big drop in gun violence.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Philadelphia and Oakland don't make up half the league.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    White people were upset about the Charleston shooting, as well. It's less about race than it is about place.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but they were killed because they were Christian, not because they were black!
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    You should go to an NFL game sometime, anywhere. I don't think you know how out of control they've gotten.

    Anyway, I think we are pretty safe that the NFL isn't going to allow concealed-carry at games.
     
  7. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    And the street/drug gang violence you mention is a pretty big dagger to the idea that gun saturation prevents gun violence.
     
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Is this sort of like how Congress is full of people who think anyone should be able to carry any gun they want anywhere they want, but works in a police enforced gun free zone so that no nutcase can come in and shoot the place up?
     
  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    That's because it's ... wait for it ... a violation of our constitutional rights.
     
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  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    How is that any more hypocritical that any gun control advocate that has armed security?
     
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  11. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    Also, Stop, Question and Frisk! Haven't heard that particular term before. When did they rebrand?
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    You really follow the issue closely, huh?
     
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