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Mass shooting on campus in Oregon

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Gator, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    You're funny.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    The point is that the media does withhold information under certain circumstances. Crimes committed by minors is another.
     
  3. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    This is the example I think of, too - refrain from something that's news-worthy because of a greater societal good.

    I'd also say you can provide details "history of mental health issues, suffering from PTSD, former beet farmer, known to have expressed hostile attitudes towards women and left-handed people" without naming him or showing his picture.
     
  4. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    The two examples are on polar opposite sides of the justice system. They are not comparable at all.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    So?
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    They are very comparable: The media agrees, as a matter of policy, to withhold certain information from the public in an effort to shape public behavior. In the rape victim case, it is to ensure that rape victims aren't afraid to come forward. In the rampage shooter case, it is to prevent potential copycat shooters from identifying with the shooter.
     
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  7. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    They're comparable, just not on the variable you chose to look at (victim vs perpetrator). They are comparable in other ways, namely, "is withholding this information good for society?" (or, if you prefer saying it in the negative - "Is publishing this information bad for society?").
    It's bad to create an environment where future victims won't feel comfortable coming forward b/c their name might end up in the paper/on the news.
    It's bad to create an environment that leads to copycat killers.

    ADD: Dick beat me to it.
     
  8. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    It's not rape victims, it's ALL victims, with obviously a few exceptions.

    Being victimized does not make one a public figure. Perpetrating a crime does.
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    That's circular. The media chooses to cover it that way. The media selects who becomes a public figure. There's nothing inherent about perpetrating a crime that makes one a public figure.
     
  10. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    You mean, other than entering the public record via a police report or a court case?
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Being named in the public record doesn't make one a "public figure."
     
  12. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    For the limited purpose of reporting that crime, yes, it does.

    You're arguing that it shouldn't. I don't agree.

    IMHO, to truly "make a difference," you'd have to ignore it completely, which isn't happening.
     
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