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Why are Asian-Americans so successful in America?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Oct 19, 2015.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Correct.
     
  2. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    PostWWII?

    In order:

    >>The persistence of Jim Crow laws into the 1960s in a variety of areas (remember, the first black player didn't suit up for Alabama until 19 fucking 71)
    >>The collapse/decline of several blue collar industries in the late 1970s into the 1980s
    >>The drug epidemic in the 1970s and 1980s followed by the drug war of the 1980s until now.
    >>Since the 1970s, massive flight from city centers/suburban sprawl, robbing city centers of property tax base needed for good public education.

    There are 20-30 other things - including the permanent stain of slavery - that I'd toss in there, too, but those are the big four for me.
     
  3. YorksArcades

    YorksArcades Active Member

    Your three favorite names are Nathan, Bedford, and Forrest.
     
  4. X-Hack

    X-Hack Well-Known Member

    Not just Jim Crow per se, but discriminatory housing and lending policies (redlining, blockbusting, steering, etc.) exacerbated the impact of the massive flight from city centers nationwide. Even for blacks in the professional class, they have a disproportionately lower level of actual family wealth compared to their white counterparts in similar positions making similar salaries which can make a huge difference in terms of opportunity. This is one instance, but it's a pretty good case study:

    RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Where Race Lives | PBS

    And from the same site, here's a pretty good quick snapshot of the government's role in all of this, beginning decades ago:

    RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Where Race Lives | PBS
     
  5. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    There is another, overlooked element to Asians' general tendency to excel and succeed, in school, in the workforce, in the U.S. -- and the world over.

    It isn't just that they tend to work harder than everyone else, but why they seem to do so. What motivates them, at the most basic level?

    I believe that a deep, abiding respect, for education, for their elders, their parents and authority, and for knowledge, as well as technology -- the driving force in the work world these days -- is at the root of their success. Conversely, respect is becoming diluted and/or almost completely lost among many other populations.

    Asians tend to place a high value on education, thus they respect it, seek it out and take advantage of it. They generally are respectful of their elders, parents, and authority, and it is expected that they be that way. They respect and are not intimidated by or afraid of technology, the driving force in the work these days.

    It all adds up to great opportunity, and success, in the U.S.

    They take neither of those things for granted, either. That makes them appreciate, value and respect the generally good and prosperous life it all affords them, too.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    OK.

    But why?
     
  7. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Dickie what do you mean why? You mean why are they successful or why do they want to be successful?
    Sorry if it seems like I'm attacking you but sometimes you sound kind of naive and/or sheltered, like when you say
    you've never seen a gun. Have you always lived in a middle-upper class mostly white suburb?
     
  8. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Think how successful Asian-Americans would be if they had special-interest groups "helping" them.
     
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  9. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    I thought Dickie is a Negro.
     
  10. YorksArcades

    YorksArcades Active Member

    He just means: Why?

    Don't you get that?
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Yes. It's hard to even describe how much caviar my dad's unemployment checks would buy. Then, when he got hired to stock shelves on the midnight shift at Wal-Mart, the party really got going.
     
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  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    "Why are Asian-Americans successful?"

    "Because they value education."

    Well, um, duh. But why do they value education? That's the interesting question. Why do they value education and African-Americans don't? What forces have shaped the standing of ethnic groups in the United States? That's what's intriguing. Saying they "value education" is circular, obvious, and ducks the important question.
     
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