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S.C. deputy filmed slamming teen girl out of desk, dragging her away

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Do you know any teachers? Do you know any teachers that teach in schools where there are "resource officers" or police officers? I know a few. All say they call the police as a last resort. Do we think the teacher saw the student with a phone and immediately called the officer? Of course we didn't have the entire video with sound, but I doubt that was the case. Any teacher that calls the police does so as a last resort. Otherwise the students easily see the teacher has little control and they lose respect for him/her. If the teacher did not ask and/or tell the student to put the phone away several times and just called the officer, he should be suspended.
     
  2. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Tell me again how letting the students do whatever they want is conducive for learning.
     
  3. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Suspending or kicking them out of school is no consequence and letting them do what they want?

    I bet they learned a hell of a lot that day. I'm sure everything went right back to normal
     
  4. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Letting one kid do what she wants is a real good example. I'm sure no other kids would see that and think F it, I'll do what I want also.
     
  5. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    So when the officer gets called in (unless we think he just walked by and decided to enter the class), he tells her to leave the class because the teacher wants her removed. She doesn't go, he walks out and says OK. His boss would be cool with that I'm sure.
     
  6. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    How the fuck is being kicked out of school getting to do what you want? Since when is that not a consequence?
     
  7. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    How's his boss with this now?
     
  8. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    He threw him under the bus. Hopefully his union has his back. Otherwise officers in that school should tell teachers, "handle it yourself "when they get called. Well maybe that would be a little harsh. They could say, "hey she isn't bothering anyone, we'll suspend her later."
     
  9. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Lol, ok. Cop handled it great and the kids got right back to learning.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    What if the kid wants to get kicked out of school?
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    What you aren't getting is that if students continue to get away with bad behavior, it becomes contagious. This isn't just about that day, but the days to come. People keep trying to explain that to you, but you refuse to listen. So you continue to construct strawmen rather than actually try to understand why leaving the kid in the room and suspending her later is not good enough. It undermines the authority of the teacher and the administration. Do that and some kids take advantage. Others lose faith in the teacher and/or administrator. They get pissed when they see students getting away with acting like assholes.

    And no, a punishment dealt out later is not the same thing. All they remember is what they saw, the student refusing to obey the teacher and getting to stay and continue to act like an ass. The student "won," even if there is a consequence later.

    I'm not saying the resource officer didn't go too far, but he may have been right to try to bodily remove her. We don't know everything that was said to the student before he arrived and it is not clear what he said to her, if anything, before putting his hands on her. He could have done it more carefully, but she made that difficult by fighting and if you watch the video objectively, you will see that he didn't intentionally flip the desk. It went over because she struggled when he tried to force her to move.

    That said, I will admit, if it was my daughter in that video, I would lose my mind over how it was handled. Then again, parents aren't always rational.
     
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  12. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    The world would be a much better place if that girl's parents saw the video and actually held her accountable for her awful behavior and apologized to the school instead of blaming the cop.

    But I suppose that's some fantasy world of responsible parents raising responsible children that we will never see again. Meanwhile, that precious little snowflake will lag far behind others and spend her life blaming whitey for all the choices she made.
     
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