S.C. deputy filmed slamming teen girl out of desk, dragging her away

I'm sure the girl will do just fine being home schooled if it comes to that.

 

Yes, they are.

You might want to research why they were brought into schools in the first place.

 

Nobody should have done that. Kids usually have a reason for acting like jackasses, but that doesn't mean you reward them for it or show the rest of the school that you can get the room cleared with that type of behavior.

 

See, this is what makes no sense, that she didn't (want to) give in. You mean, so instead, she'd rather get arrested in front of her peers?

What the heck principle is she upholding by repeatedly refusing to hang up a phone?

 

Do you have kids?

 

It's a sense of entitlement that is far too common and Ace's idea of clearing the classroom would have just made the issue worse. That is why I'm in favor of banning cell phones from the classroom entirely. Too many students cannot and will not use them responsibly.

 

I need to address this because it's bugging me.

Cran, I don't think anybody -- certainly not me -- is refusing to acknowledge the police officer's part in this sorry situation. I've posted, a couple of times, I think, that his behavior was bad, and looks even worse. Somehow, you've read right past that.

I don't like or condone his manhandling of the student, but I've brought up the other very important person in this scenario and chosen to discuss that aspect. And not because I'm "excited," as Dick seems to think, that, yes, it's an example of what I believe is part of blacks' problems in being generally successful in the U.S., at least and especially in comparison to Asian-Americans.

In fact, it is that, is it not?

There are several people -- most prominently the SRO and the girl -- involved in this case, and I have simply been bringing up the girl's part in this incident. To me, it's rather big. This girl was being an idiot, for reasons that no one seems to have asked about, or delved into, or tried to find out, apparently just chalking it up to "being a kid," or something.

No, this teenager caused this situation, and she did it knowingly -- or at least knowing darn well that she was going to cause trouble by continuing to refuse to do as asked. Are you and others only talking about the policeman saying that what she did DIDN'T qualify as outright disrespect? What else would you have called it? (And no, I wasn't thinking about gang ways or insults, either).

This girl was a victim because she decided to put herself on a path to being one, and she was repeatedly, blatantly and inappropriately intentional about it. We still may not know why. But I'm not chalking it up to just being a kid.

 

You were a hell of a lot more forgiving of Josh Duggar

 

She had hung up and put away the phone. What she refused to do was give it to the teacher upon demand.

I am utterly surprised that a recently orphaned teenage girl refused an arguably reasonable demand that she surrender her phone.

 

And how many warnings did it take to get her to put it away? Usually, teachers go from asking the student to put it away to having to confiscate the phone. Once a teacher tells a student to do something, they have to follow through or the entire class sees that the teacher can be pushed around too easily.

And while I get the urge to cut a girl in her situation some slack, if rules are not consistently enforced, they aren't effective.

By arguably reasonable do you mean the teacher should not be able to confiscate the phone? Sorry. That's wrong. If students can't follow the rules and keep things put away that are supposed to be out of sight during class, the teacher has every right to take it. This has happened to my daughter and I fully supported the teacher's decision.

 

I'm unable to open the link, unfortunately (Jeff...oh, Jeff?), but thanks for that info. I'm guessing the headline/writer is being sarcastic there?

I'll say I still think the student was being unreasonable and stupid, seeming for no reason, and that she must have known what she was doing.

 

Well, not exactly...but, yes, I'm generally pretty forgiving. Pretty principled, but pretty forgiving, too.

Don't worry, I've pretty much forgiven this girl, too, although, probably surprisingly to some here, not the SRO.

I don't get or understand her or her actions in this instance, but I've forgiven her.