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The new "Star Wars" trailer

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Oct 20, 2015.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I need to sit and watch them again. I know I enjoyed "Sith" at the theater.

    Perhaps the biggest obstacle they faced from the outset was we all knew where it was headed. Everything else almost felt like filler.
     
  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    I think you could make a decent movie out of I and II if you got rid of every scene involving the kid AND got completely rid of Jar Jar from TPM and cut every line of "romance" out of AOTC.
    Edit what's left over together and you'd have an ok movie.
     
  3. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    One thing I've learned: The geeks are never happy. Ever.

    It's part and parcel of the mindset that these, or any, movies are anything more than just movies.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    But I'm not talking about the geeks. They actually do know the prequel characters. I don't get the feeling that the casual viewing public absorbed them into the "Star Wars" universe.
     
  5. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Well, most of the prequel characters are in the originals, too. That was the draw.

    I'm not sure anyone was clamoring for Jar Jar or a rich yet terribly acted back story on Padme.
     
  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Padme's back story started out pretty good, but by the end of ROTS she had been turned into a cliche DID who "dies of a broken heart." Puhhhleeze.
     
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That was the worst part of it, and it did not need to happen. I never understood the choice of Padme dying simply because she lost the will to live.
     
  8. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    I thought that Padme dying stayed true to the original as I thought it was said or implied she had lost the will to live.

    Anyway, you already have a portion of the geek world already hating the new movies. And even if it is perfect in every way, you'll still have people hate it.

    The urge to be a contrarian asshole runs strong in us all.
     
  9. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    i always thought that instead of killing Padme off, it would've been a much better plot twist for the saga overall to have her give birth to the twins, then be kidnapped and Carbonited by Palpatine -- without the knowledge of Darth Vader, or really anybody else (including Yoda and Obi-Wan).

    The Emperor could have used it as a hammer over Vader: "I sense your wife may be alive, obey my orders and perhaps you will see her again."

    But supposedly the working relationship between Lucas and Natalie Portman went real bad between Eps. 2-3, so stashing her away on some deserted moon for some possible sequel wouldn't have worked out.

    But I bet J.J. Abrams wishes they had.
     
  10. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Maybe but she needed to die. That was the final push for Anakin to go to the dark side as he thought it would give him the power to bring her back to life.

    I suppose I need to see all of them again before seeing the new one as I'm sure I've gotten the films confused.
     
  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Well either way the "died of a broken heart" stuff was bullshit.
     
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  12. KVV33

    KVV33 Member

    All the prequels were horrible. They were not salvageable. The only way to justify anything in them is general nostalgia for the overall universe, and childhood. Storytelling, as an exercise, is not that difficult, and Lucas was so far up his own ass, and so lazy, he forgot the basic principals of the medium. Sith is not good, and no amount of editing could have saved it. They should actually teach those movies in film school as an example of how to poorly to develop characters and structure a story arc.

    People are excited about the sequels because J.J. Abrams is not going to plop two actors down in front of a greenscreen and storyboard scenes that are shot/reverse shot. Abrams, whatever his faults as an executive producer may be, is going to actually get down in the dirt and build models and foam aliens and not draw shit on computers that looks fake and stupid. He understands character motivations, if not endings all that well. He didn't fuck up the Star Trek franchise, and he actually reinvented it in an interesting way. He also has Lawrence Kasden as his co-screenwriter, and seeing as he wrote Empire and Jedi (not to mention Raiders, The Big Chill, Grand Canyon), there is plenty to be optimistic about.
     
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