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S.C. deputy filmed slamming teen girl out of desk, dragging her away

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That Doug Glanville thing fascinated me when he first wrote something about it. The cop pulled up, parked across the street from his house, walked over and said something like, "Are you shoveling snow to earn some money?" At first, when Glanville saw him pull up, he thought he was lost and needed help -- because it wasn't his jurisdiction. He quickly realized he was being profiled.

    It's obvious profiling, but there was nothing illegal about it. A cop can walk up to anyone and ask them anything.

    The thing is, you don't have to answer. If the cop has no probable cause / warrant or reasonable suspicion that you are breaking a law, there isn't a thing he can legally do to you (doesn't mean cops won't be abusive anyhow and violate your 4th amendment rights, and black people find this out way more than others). Either he arrests you for something (an illegal arrest if there is no probable cause), in which case you still don't have to talk to him and are entitled to an attorney. Or he has to leave you alone and you don't have to answer his questions.

    In the case of Glanville, he told the cop it was his home, and the cop left, and as that story says, Glanville followed through by making an issue of it -- because he knew it was a case of a black guy getting profiled by a cop.

    What I would love to know is the "what if?". ... if he had just told the cop that it was none of his business and kept on doing what he was doing. Because if I am shoveling my driveway and a cop pulls up and asks me what I am doing, that would be my exact reaction.

    You have to figure better than even odds that it doesn't end well for Glanville if he had handled it that way. But legally, that cop can ask whatever he wants. And Glanville didn't have any obligation to justify his presence there or answer his questions.
     
  3. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    "Getting over it" certainly isn't easy, but it's simply the best solution where there are no good ones. Getting pissed off and escalating the situation may be the reflexive thing to do, but it will accomplish nothing positive and almost certainly increases the odds that the situation will turn into something far worse.
     
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  4. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Except that it's not a "solution" to anything.
     
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  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    It's the best "response", then. What the fuck ever.
     
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  6. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    It's horseshit.
     
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  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    If you're walking along in your neighborhood, and the police stop you and ask you to walk on the other side because you've come close to getting run over, why is it so hard to process the idea that, hmmm, maybe I should just walk on the other side?
     
  8. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    You can make all the formal complaints you want in the days after your situation is over. The key is getting to that point without anyone getting hurt.
     
  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    It's the best solution, response or what the fuck ever for someone who will never be directly affected by it.
     
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I don't think anyone is arguing that it doesn't happen.

    I don't think we can point to every instance of a black person ever getting stopped as an example of this.
     
  11. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I wasn't responding to this particular example.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Or to the example of the guy who was selling "loosies" on a street corner in Staten Island.

    Or the kid in Cleveland pointing and waving a realistic looking toy gun.
     
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