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S.C. deputy filmed slamming teen girl out of desk, dragging her away

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Oct 27, 2015.

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  1. YorksArcades

    YorksArcades Active Member

    So you'd resist and draw a hostile response or a call for more police? Brilliant.
     
    YorksArcades, Nov 2, 2015
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  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    No, you resist because maybe they got nothin'. But you cooperate, and maybe you never see the sun again. This is the world they know. You avoid police.
     
    Dick Whitman, Nov 2, 2015
    #602
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I'm a 38-year-old white male without so much as an outstanding parking ticket right now. But when I get pulled over, and they are back there running my license, I get nervous. My mind starts racing. I become irrational.

    Can't imagine what that's like when you're 17 and black.
     
    Dick Whitman, Nov 2, 2015
    #603
  4. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    You must not know any good criminal lawyers. Need one? I know a few dudes who broke a lot of laws and did no time.
     
    cjericho, Nov 2, 2015
    #604
  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    You do?

    I just say to myself, "Guess I shouldn't have been going 75 there. Hope it doesn't cost too much."
     
    BTExpress, Nov 2, 2015
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  6. YorksArcades

    YorksArcades Active Member

    Good of you to admit that. The strategy of you and many others so far has been to imply that you and only you have full insight into the life of a minority in a police state.
     
    YorksArcades, Nov 2, 2015
    #606
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Your attitude toward people given authority to take away your freedom (i.e. -- "doing his/her job"), is to voluntarily give that person the ammunition to do it -- even though we have a right that anchors our system of governancee that specifically says you have no obligation to do it.

    Trust me, I'm not the one who needs luck. Yes, "answering questions" is exactly what a cop wants you to do. If he is properly trained he knows you are under no obligation to stick around (unless there is probable cause / reasonable suspicion that you are breaking the law, in which case he can arrest you), and you are NEVER under any obligation to talk to him -- arrested or otherwise. If you voluntarily do it, you are just another chump who doesn't know his rights and is making it easy for him to make a case against you.
     
    The Big Ragu, Nov 2, 2015
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  8. YorksArcades

    YorksArcades Active Member

    So you'd walk away and risk the officer calling you in as a suspect?

    You sound like the chump here, my friend. When they filmed the part of Office Space with the guy listening to rap music in his car, did you serve as an adviser for how the character should appear?
     
    YorksArcades, Nov 2, 2015
    #608
  9. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Snitches get stitches.
     
    cjericho, Nov 2, 2015
    #609
  10. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    That been causing you problems?
     
    TheSportsPredictor, Nov 2, 2015
    #610
  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Just because you refuse to answer questions you're not required to answer doesn't then give the officer reasonable suspicion / probable cause.
     
    doctorquant, Nov 2, 2015
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  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    What does "calling me in as a suspect" mean?

    A police officer may not arrest me (or search me or come into my home, etc. ) unless he has probable cause linking me to a crime. As I said, I don't live in a police state. "Choosing not to interact with a strange person with a badge and a gun" is not criminal in a free society.

    To answer your question, I won't walk away from a cop talking to me. But I will make him give me the lawful order to stay. I will ask him if he is detaining me or if I am free to go. If he detains me without probable case or a warrant, he is abusing his position, something the courts will have to work out. And no, ESPECIALLY in that situation, I am NOT talking to him or answering his questions about what I am doing. He's not my friend and it's none of his business.
     
    The Big Ragu, Nov 2, 2015
    #612
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