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S.C. deputy filmed slamming teen girl out of desk, dragging her away

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Again, that's circular. Why are black people poor? Because they are poor.

    But why are black people disproportionately poor? Why does it break down by race?
     
  2. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    People who spout crap about a post-racial society want us to believe that insidious racism and discriminatory practices (housing, employment, education, judicial system) that have entrapped American blacks for generations no longer exist. It's simple and inexpensive viewpoint, at least in the short-term.
     
  3. Key

    Key Well-Known Member

    Also, the "post-racial society" is an infant compared to the centuries-old practice of discrimination.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    New York and Chicago public schools are not racially integrated, and all attempts to do so are fought by white liberals.

    Indiana University Northwest is building a $45 million arts and sciences center. In a city with 18% unemployment, local unemployed African-Americans can't get on the job, while white workers from Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin get the work.

    Group wants more Gary residents on $45 million construction project

    Bill Clinton signs a "crime bill" and Martin O'Malley locks up every African-American in Baltimore than he can.

    School vouchers and school choice are fought by teachers unions, and Democrats everywhere.

    And, government is trying to clamp down on companies like Uber that make it easy for anyone to become their own boss.

    Maybe this is all a policy failure, and maybe liberal dems should lead on some of them, instead of fighting to keep their base in poverty, and importing more poor, unskilled workers to compete with them for low paying jobs.
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I assume you're referring to those Minnesota studies (by Scarr and Weinberg), which are pretty interesting (and are consistent with other work that goes back to far earlier in the 20th century). Those studies can be taken to suggest that your assertion is both right and wrong. On the one hand, the adopted children exhibited IQs that were significantly above (and I'm going to quote the actual study here, so no bitching about my language) "comparable children being reared in the black community." On the other hand, the adopted children exhibited IQ's that were lower than their adoptive siblings. Both of these differences remained when a follow-up study was undertaken several years later.

    Studies like this are something of a Rorschach test ... you can make out of them what you want to make out of them. My cheap-seats hypothesis re: the broader question is that our institutions -- our schools, our police force -- work more than adequately for those reared in what we might call a stereotypical "white" environment, but they don't work nearly so well for those not raised in such. Yet our polity can't escape a one-size-fits-all tendency.
     
  6. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Yes.

    Do I expect to find a rational, useful discourse on this board, especially without having to wade through a bunch of racist garbage?

    No way.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I know that you do. You are one of the ones who acknowledge that blacks aren't lagging behind, well, because they lag behind.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Is it possible, then, that blacks are just not as smart as whites, generally?
     
  9. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Those dirty damn libs! Thank goodness the conservatives are on their side, at least!
     
  10. YorksArcades

    YorksArcades Active Member

    Do you spit at your keyboard when you type the word "circular?" Are you drinking enough RC Cola?
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    They are.

    When you focus on liberty -- economic and otherwise -- and equal opportunity, you are on the side of people trying to get out of poverty.

    When you favor school choice, you are fighting for parents who want a better education for their kids, and you increase competition among failing schools.

    When you fight for kids, and not teachers unions, you are fighting to break the cycle of poverty.
     
  12. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    To be a little more fair, I shouldn't expect to find The Answer on any message board. It's an incredibly complex question with an almost infinite number of facets to it. Entire sociology departments are kept humming along working on this and satisfactory answers remain scarce.
     
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