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S.C. deputy filmed slamming teen girl out of desk, dragging her away

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Then make it harder to get in. I think that the money will take care of that, in a way. Talent is drawn to money, so the supply of candidates will exceed the demand. The less talented people will get crowded out.

    One problem is also that talented millennials don't want anything to do with living in some bumfuck rural town, whatever the money. I think it's a lot easier to draw teaching talent to CPS or even East St. Louis than to Trailer Trash, Indiana.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Having a teaching certificate doesn't necessarily mean they can impart knowledge either. That's the point.

    Listen to the podcast I linked to. It's better than the article.

    We put people into classrooms who aren't qualified to teach now.
     
  3. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Praxis

    If you think the person that knows the most should be the best teacher, you don't understand what teaching is. - Teaching Styles - Center for Teaching Excellence | University of South Carolina

    With that logic, Magic Bird and Jordan should be the greatest basketball coaches ever and not former NBA bench players.
     
  4. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Answer the percentage question.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Sure. It's the same reason why the VA has trouble attracting doctors to bumblefuck.

    So, pay more. Forgive student loans. But, let's get better teachers.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    How the fuck is he supposed to know the precise answer?
     
  7. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    I asked first.

    And you might not realize that teachers are not "fired." Their contracts are not renewed or they are asked to retire. Your 1% data is wrong.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    If someone offered me $100,000 to go teach high school civics or English within a half-hour of my house - I know, not the meatiest, most in-demand topics, but the ones I'd be qualified to teach - I would walk into my department head's office today and quit. But I'm certainly not going to go through another round of schooling to start out at $40,000/year or less.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yes, and Ted Williams wasn't a great hitting coach or manager.

    But, let's try this one more time...

    We haven't shown that current teachers are good at what they're getting paid for -- imparting knowledge! They're not tested on their ability to do this. Their student teaching doesn't require them to do it.

    So, if there's no requirement to prove an ability to teach, then I'd prefer the teacher who knows the most.

    And, how about this... we make him or her prove they can do it first! It's possible. You can actually test someones ability to teach. We just don't do it.

    (And, I'll bet you didn't listen to the NPR link I posted.)
     
  10. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Again, I am absolutely all for improved teacher training, standards and more rigorous accreditation. I'm also for better parenting, less poverty, more availability of daycare, pre-K, pre-and after-school programs, smaller classrooms and better nutrition.

    What I'm not into is blaming union teachers because that's the narrative that people investing in privatization want you to believe so that they can have a cheaper work force and higher profits.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but you'd be willing to take a test, right? Even a practical test.

    And, there could be some online classes you could take. Maybe a few weekend classes to prep you.

    And, that's less than you make now. So, you would take less. It's just a question of how much less, and how it would improve your quality of life. (Better schedule, less of a commute, more time with your kids.)
     
  12. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    They do. It's called student teaching in college where people regularly will not pass and are not allowed to have a teaching license.
     
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