San Bernardino

I disagree. I think what matters is WHY. It's not about Muslims, generally. It's about Muslims DRIVEN by Islam.

 

The country collectively shrugged its shoulders at a person killing a classroom full of kindergartners.

The why this happened won't matter. People will hear a funny name, nod wisely while saying Muslims, am I right and move on.

 

Motive is always important in a crime story. It's just that you need a who before you can move on to why. So of course who is going to be first. We can argue about whether random madman or madman inspired by his understanding of religion is scarier, but neither is as scary as unknown suspect on the loose.

 

So ISIS has become so elaborate they're having these people get jobs in order to target employees. Well, I guess it would be a cost savings as well...

 

Remember the Fort Hood shooter. He was a Muslim, and definitely his religious consciousness was at least part of his motive, but the country as a whole treated the crime as "another lone nut." It's way too early to say that just because some guy with an Arab (or East Indian, or Malaysian, I don't know) name did it everyone will go "terrorists." Because we don't know motive and enough about the other suspects.

 

Hey, jihadists gotta eat too.

 

Not that we have any reliable info, but this speaks to the somewhat misguided fear of the Syrian refugees. It would be much easier to gain a work/student visa than to go through the refugee screening process, no matter how many issues there are with it.

 

I remember on 9/11 that about seven hours into the story, which is about where we are now, there was one hell of a lot more confirmed information than here. It was known who the hijackers were, it was known it as al-Qaeda, to name the biggest two facts. Now passenger manifests are easy to check, but the authorities seem genuinely unsure of what they're dealing with in this case.

 

I'm sure they have a very good idea of what we're dealing with in this case. It's just no longer politically correct to say it. The media have gone from "never forget" in 2001 to "Sorry, but since the truth doesn't help our favored party, let's keep this on the down-low."

 

Tony, they'd say so if they knew. You've covered cops. If they thought they knew what was up, they wouldn't be shy about the biggest case in their town since forever.

 

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Thanks.

(P.S. That should cover every shooting from at least last week.)