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San Bernardino

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Be boop, false choice, be boop, fallacy, be boop, I would. :)
     
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  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    C'mon. Stable government job. That's a big seller in the third world.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Fuck. The guy that ran the Coffee Shop in the building got killed.

    That's fucked up.
     
  4. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    First time on the thread an actual victim has been mentioned.
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    When people stop being wrong in the same ways, I'll come up with new ways to tell them why they are.
     
  6. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Stony-
    A constitutional convention in our lifetimes should be fun, I agree.
    But this wouldn't exactly be James Madison and Alexander Hamilton debating, would it.
    The clowns who comprise our Congress don't deserve that historical stage.
     
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  7. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Reports are the guns were bought by a third party. Run that through your processor, Stain.
     
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  8. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Restrictions on sales are the tip of the iceberg of what we need. There are quite seriously way too many guns in existence in this country and in a rational world we'd be fixing that.

    We *should* be coming after people's guns.
     
  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    My understanding is that he went to the party, left, and returned and began killing people. No doubt premeditated then... but was this a planned attack for that day and time, or did someone say or do something that set him off, triggered him go to begin shooting people?

    Still waiting for the facts to come out,
     
  10. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Plenty of substantive amendments have passed in "modern times." Further, the convention mechanism (as you might refer to it) is still constrained by the 3/4ths rule.

    Now, you may be meaning to say that the founders had it in their heads that we'd not only amend the constitution, we'd also amend the way we amend the constitution. But I've never read of any such sentiment.
     
  11. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Definitions of "modern times" and "susbtantive" can vary, but we've had three amendments in the last 50 years. The *most* substantive of the three was shifting the voting age down to 18, which isn't particularly substantive at all.

    The idea 2015 America needs the exact same primary governing document as 1965 America, with three minor changes, is ludicrous.s
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The 10 Commandments are so outdated.

    What's wrong with coveting my neighbor's wife anyway?
     
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