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San Bernardino

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Have our rights as citizens changed?
     
  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Yes.
     
  3. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    How?
     
  4. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Now, not begging the question ... just committing the fallacy of hasty generalization.
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Off the top of my head, homosexuality is now protected by law in many ways, privacy has become a significant issue with legal protection, one person/one vote, the right against self-incrimination has been significantly expanded, significantly more protection of freedom of expression and association (some pretty nasty anti-Communist laws were still in effect 50 years ago), individuals are allowed to form corporations and extend their freedoms to the actions of that corporation.
     
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  6. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Sounds like we're not governed by the same document that was in effect in 1965.
     
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  7. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Men, that's one of the informal ones that's subjective enough to be impossible to prove or disprove.
     
  8. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    One of the things often criticized about conservative and the tea party is how over-the-top paranoid they are, railing on about how the Democrats want to "come after their guns" and trash the Constitution, or that liberals have contempt for the general population and believe they're so much smarter than everyone else that they can make decisions for you better than you can for yourself.

    In this one thread, Rick, you have come right out and said pretty much all of them.
     
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  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    We are, we've just learned to be functionally practical occasionally at ignoring it when we have to, because it's so outdated that it can no longer effectively govern the country as written. It's a kludge, a workaround, and an inefficient one that we use instead of the much more practical option of rewriting it every generation or so as envisioned.

    You may learn to get along on a broken leg and not be completely motionless, but it'd still be better to fix it.
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    They're over the top paranoid about brown people doing bad things to them. They're right to be afraid that smarter people are actively working against them to keep them from screwing up the world any more than they already have.
     
  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Yes. See the PATRIOT Act.
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    (in before someone points to the 14 victims of this as proof that the paranoia about brown people isn't over the top)
     
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