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San Bernardino

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Such nuance from the Baron Wing.
     
  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The Mooslim Neegro gone and done it now. This will not stand.

    President Obama refuses to drink his own piss for our entertainment

    I predict Teabag America, including the entire GOP clown car field, will immediately seize upon the opportunity to drink their own piss in public as much and as often as possible, just to shove it in the face of the M.N.

    Trump of course will lead the way, because as he will be happy to tell us, his piss is outstanding and tastes like the nectar of the gods. In fact when he is elected president, he will order his own piss to be chemically analyzed and a synthetic equivalent produced nationwide by the millions of gallons and then handed out to citizens as a nutritional supplement.
     
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  3. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    You really believe that?
     
  4. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    He' piggybacking on Baron. Let that sink in.

    On a related note, I have to assume that oop, as head of sj's Integrity Department and a noted open-minded poster, has to be upset with the president for not clearly making his point. There has to be some sort of policy he is flouting.
     
  5. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I think that the potential is there, anywhere, anytime. I also think that if you add up the total number of people killed by Muslim extremists in the U.S. since 9/11, it won't be a statistical pimple compared to the gun death or auto accident rate.

    I work primary care medical, and after 9/11 there was that anthrax scare. Some was mailed to the Enquirer and to Congress. Fox New ran the story to death. We'd get ten calls a day from some little old lady who wanted to get an anthrax shot. I'd tell them the truth - first, that no one was getting them except troops going to the sandbox, and second, that anyone in Pinson, Alabama, who got anthrax was getting it because they ran cattle, not because Al Qaeda gave it to them.

    It was the damn truth.


    Add up all the people killed in the US by Muslim terror since 9/11, including the big one on 9/11. Compare it to a single year's accidental gun deaths. Look at the results, then look at the coverage.
     
  6. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Nah, fuck that. I said what I thought. Baron does not enter into it.
     
  7. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    I meant do you really believe Obama was mocking cable news and the public in his statement to the NYT?
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    What's the purpose of comparing terror deaths to accidental deaths?

    There's a reason why terror deaths are amplified. They result in terror. Every incident of terror makes people fear additional attacks.

    They lead to things like a kid who "invented a clock" being placed in handcuffs and in the LA school system being shut down based on a poorly written threat.

    9/11 devastated the travel industry, and sent nearly every airline into bankruptcy.

    The Paris attacks have driven down tourism.

    What would a terror attack at a mall or football stadium do?
     
  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    No. I just pulled up the text and read it, and I don't think that's in there. The "mocking cable news" thing was Baron, not me. I think that the only reference to mocking I made was to the sort of non-stop "OMG the Muslim terrorists are coming to kill us all" that seems to make up about a third of this thread.

    What happened in Paris was shitty, and it was a true terrorist hit. I think that what happened in San Bernardino was home grown dickheads acting out their anger or ideology or whatever. I don't think that they were a true ISIS cell so much as playing on it. Sure, ISIS will be glad to take credit for reaching deep into heartland America, and someone connected may indeed prove to have been involved in training or financing. I just think that by running around wailing and waving our hands over our heads is counterproductive. Burning Mosques where innocent Americans who had nothing to do with it, and want nothing to do with it, is counterproductive and radicalizes more people.

    Let our intelligence services do their jobs, and support their efforts. If we can catch people involved in planning or doing terror attacks, try and jail them if we take them alive, and if we don't I won't waste a tear. Take every reasonable precaution, but remember the lessons of the Patriot Act.
     
  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member


    The comparison is to say that the danger that people feel is not proportional to the actual dangers they face daily. Much of that is because of the level of the coverage, and the tone of the coverage. If you add in that the incident can be used for political advantage, you really amp up the coverage.

    What would Winston Churchill have said after such an attack? (And yes, I am well aware that Obama is not Churchill - you don't hear me singing his praises.)

    Terror deaths are amplified in part because the media runs with them, sensationalizes them, makes them the story of the day every day. That feeds the beast, the doers get endless free publicity with great propaganda value.

    Make a splashy attack once in a while and you can put a scare into your enemy and let their own media do your work for you.

    These attacks are so successful in part because they erupt unexpectedly in places that people reasonably feel safe. Afterwards, people who *are* safe, feel unsafe.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

  12. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Probably the same folks who want to bomb Agrabah - a fictional nation from Disney's "Aladdin."

    Poll: 30 percent of Republicans want to bomb country from ‘Aladdin’
     
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