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Militia seizes Federal building

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Jan 2, 2016.

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  1. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Maybe this is just a false flag thing since Obama is doing an executive action thing on guns tomorrow.
     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Since watching the news this evening, I propose the last two words of the thread title be altered to "Federal shack."
     
  3. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    I'd still like to know why Xan changed his name, and to that.
     
  4. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Huggin' and a-kissin'
    Dancin' and a-lovin'
    Wearin' next to nothin'
    'Cause it's hot as an oven
    The whole shack shimmies
    Yeah, the whole shack shimmies
    The whole shack shimmies when everybody's
    Movin' around and around and around and around
    Everybody's movin', everybody's groovin', baby
    Folks linin' up outside just to get down
    Everybody's movin', everybody's groovin', baby
    Funky little shack
    Funky little shack


    Bang, bang, bang, on the door, baby
    Knock a little louder, baby
    Bang, bang, bang, on the door, baby
    I can't hear you
    Bang, bang, bang, on the door, baby
    Knock a little louder, sugar
    Bang, bang, bang, on the door, baby
    I can't hear you
    Bang, bang, bang, on the door, baby (Knock a little louder)
    Bang, bang, bang, on the door, baby
    Bang, bang (On the door, baby)
    Bang, bang (On the door)
    Bang, bang (On the door, baby)
    Bang, bang
    Your what?
    Tin roof, rusted
     
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  5. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    That theory has been making the rounds the past few days on the larger militia sites.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Is there some list of the top 10 militia sites? Can you share it with us?
     
  7. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

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  8. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Who knew smallpotatoes was such an influential poster?
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I would have told you if you hadn't taken a shot at me!
     
  10. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

  11. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member


    Oh, no, no, no, these are DANGEROUS TERRORISTS. TERRORISTS!
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    What does Mormonism have to do with the Oregon protestors:

    CORNISH: All right. So over the course of your reporting, you actually noticed certain symbols from the Mormon faith in the language of Ammon Bundy and also his father - right? - Cliven, going back to that confrontation with the Bureau of Land Management back in 2014. Give us an example of what you were seeing or hearing.

    SEPULVADO: Well, that's right. At the time, I was living in Las Vegas. I was reporting there, and there was a very large Mormon community there. And the more mainstream Mormons would get very upset with Cliven Bundy and his family because Cliven Bundy actually would wrap himself in a lot of Mormon symbolism and a lot of Mormon belief. For example, one of the things that was on the flags at Cliven Bundy's ranch was this quote, "in memory of our God, our religion and freedom and our peace, our lives and our children." That comes from LDS Scripture. Now, I want to make it really clear. Mainstream Mormons don't advocate taking over people's land. But Cliven Bundy says that, you know, this is part of his destiny in large part because it's based on a story about a guy named Captain Moroni .

    CORNISH: So Captain Moroni - who is this figure, and why would he inspire anti-Federalist militants?

    SEPULVADO: Well, according to Latter-day Saints Scripture, Captain Moroni became a commander of his people, called the Nephites, when he turned 25. And he basically introduced a bunch of new tactics and new ways to think about fighting. And one day, this really kind of corrupt king comes to Captain Moroni, and he's basically telling him, we're going to take your people over. And Captain Moroni says, uh-uh, that's not going to happen. He takes his coat, tears a piece of it off. He scrawls that quote I just told you, puts that on a pole, and he calls this his title of liberty. People see this flag. They flock to him. So many people come to join him in the fight that the king gets scared and he moves and goes away without there ever being a confrontation.

    CORNISH: So how does this play out today, looking around in this confrontation with Ammon Bundy?

    SEPULVADO: Well, Ammon Bundy - this is exactly what he wants to do. So when Ammon Bundy says he's trying to be peaceful and he wants to be peaceful, it seems that he really means it, and he - it's 'cause he bases it on this idea of Captain Moroni, right? Like, it's - what he's doing is the same that Moroni's done. He says - Ammon Bundy says he's been moved by the Lord to come to Oregon, and he's hoping that people will hear his call and that they'll be so many people that the federal government will say, you know what; we're not even going to bother; we're going to cave to your demands.

    CORNISH: So you talk about this tie between the kind of religious and the political, but where does this strain of Mormonism fall on the religious spectrum? I mean, is it peculiar to the Bundy family history?

    SEPULVADO: Well, I think there are some things to remember. And I'm not a Mormon scholar. I want to make that really, really clear. But a lot of Mormons were persecuted when the religion first started. And when they came to Utah, they really were looking at starting their own country. In fact, there's an idea called the country of Deseret, which is this safe haven for folks who are Latter-day Saints. Mainstream Mormons have turned away from that, you know? Of course, you have Senator Harry Reid, who's a Mormon. You have Mitt Romney, the 2012 GOP nominee for president. He's a Mormon. They - they're not looking to break away, but there are still certain people who remember this tradition, who have always had beef with the federal government. And Cliven Bundy and his family are people who remember those stories, and they believe there is a destiny. And he'll tell you this. I've talked to Cliven about this. He believes his family has a destiny to resolve this issue.

     
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