Juliet Macur on Jameis Winston

Yeah, I'd be surprised if there are many tougher convictions to get. There's so much "he said, she said" as well as, unfortunately, there being a history of people claiming they were raped when they weren't. I am not under any circumstances saying that's the case here, I have no idea, but it factors in why it's so hard to get a conviction.

 

Also: Alcohol.

 

Then it's possible that Macur, through her bias, is conflating two very different things here. "She liked it"- the ol' Bob Knight defense - seems like a neanderthal justification after the rape has began. Winston is talking about what happened before sex began. Or, like I said earlier, it's possible that Macur considers any action that would even elicit a moan to require an explicit request to continue, and an affirmative, explicit response.

"May I touch your clitoris?"

"Yes."

Maybe that's where we're at. But she should say that. It's an important part of her argument that's missing.

 

Right. It's like those women's groups that want women to sign a form as a way to show consent. It just doesn't happen.

I'm not claiming to have any grasp on what Winston did or didn't do, but I know that at times, especially in college when alcohol is involved, people do things they regret the next morning.

 

I'll have to try that as a pick up line. "May I touch your clitoris?"

Just have to figure out the best place: bar, Barnes and Noble, or cornfield?

 

He answered questions just not enough to satisfy the lynch mob led by LTL.

Add the Supreme Court Justice to the cast of people who conspired to keep the fourth string quarterback eligible even though nobody had a clue who the alleged rapist was when the girl first cried wolf.

FSU PD
TPD
FDLE
SAO
Hospital nurses who administered rape kit
UF Toxicology Lab

This is a girl who felt remorse

 

http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.c...ng-opinions-on-winston-rape-accusations/?_r=0

 

Just win two more games, turn pro, get drafted by Cleveland, and everyone will STFU.

 

That's pretty damn vindictive, Vombie.

 

FSU pays $950,000.00 to woman Jameis Winston raped

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/s...nstons-accuser-950000-in-settlement.html?_r=0

 

Her lawyers say they aren't taking that much and FSU insisted on including that detail in the release. John Clune, one of her attorneys, said $700,000 in fees "would be obnoxious."

I'm thinking FSU wanted to say that to indicate that this case was trumped up by greedy lawyers. Judging from the comments on the websites of various Florida newspapers, that impression is hitting home.