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I was about to bring that up. A few years ago, he was one of the Tea Party insurgents taking down the Republican establishment. Now he IS the Republican establishment.

I agree with YF. The Tea Party types would be just fine with Rubio as the nominee.

 

You're both kidding yourselves.

 

Sixers made up a 24-point deficit against the Warriors in 8 or 9 minutes. It's possible!

 

I'm 95% sure that sanity will reign, but if Bernie Sanders wins the nomination, I want a personal explanation from every liberal that voted for him after mocking Republicans for nominating old white guys too far from center to be electable.

 

It can be done.

 

There isn't a chance in hell Sanders is getting the nomination. He's playing the role of HRC's liberal conscience (Elizabeth Warren turned it down) during the campaign because everyone knows that HRC can't and won't go there.

 

Carson's campaign isn't happy with Cruz's campaign.
Carson: Cruz campaign sabotaged us with 'dirty tricks'

 

So it's the last week before New Hampshire, so EVERY ad on local TV programs is a campaign ad. Most of them are still, amazingly, Jeb Bush ads. His campaign is like one of those dangerous machines Capt. Kirk would encounter in the original Star Trek, marching through the galaxy although the civilization that created it had perished thousands of years ago.

 

I think some of you underestimate and misunderstand Rubio. I think he's closer ideologically to a Rockefeller Republican and plays the part of a Goldwater. I mean, how much of Goldwater can you really be listening to hip hop while growing up in Miami?

I don't have the time to look it up, but there was a story a few years ago about him teaching Political Science part-time at some Florida university. From that and all other articles I've read about him, he's very intelligent and calculative of everything he says or does -- much moreso than Cruz or others. Unlike Cruz, I don't think Rubio believes much of the hard-line twaddle he spews. The "we'll never know how fast the earth was created" line is a perfect example -- doesn't alienate moderates as much as "God created the Earth in seven literal days" and doesn't scare off the Evangelicals by saying "Science has proven that's not factually accurate but I still believe it metaphorically/mythological."

Rubio gives me some (limited) excitement (I'm a realist and will never fully drink the kool-aid of anybody). I followed him since he was elected six years ago. I think he would tackle immigration and help support a viable long-term solution (as he tried with the Gang of 8). He will get my vote in the primary. If he doesn't get the nomination, I'm voting for Clinton vs. Cruz or Trump. As much as I don't like Hillary, I trust her more in the office than the wingnut or the hair.

 

So there's nothing to worry about because the guy will say anything in the pursuit of power. OK.

 

Personally — as someone who has voted for Green Party and/or (literally) socialist party candidates for president since I was eligible to vote — I hope Bernie's tilt-at-windmills campaign produces the strongest Green Party presidential candidate ever slated. They may try to draft Bernie, but I think a younger candidate who has held elected office somewhere as a Green or socialist (think Seattle) could be good.

No socialist is going to be elected president in 2016, in America, but the more Bernie and other third-party candidates can do to make young voters aware of class divisions in this country, the better.

 

Just like Hillary