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Super Bowl 50

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Songbird, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

  2. JimmyHoward33

    JimmyHoward33 Well-Known Member

    Fair point, I could see someone arguing they don't criticize BB because he is consistent, while saying Cam is different because his attitude when he wins is so much different than when he loses
     
  3. Gator

    Gator Well-Known Member

    All week, people attempted to tear down Cam Newton, the way he carries himself on the field. I was one of them on one of the running NFL threads. I said I can't put my finger on it, but something about him rubs me the wrong way.

    He had an opportunity to win over a lot of those detractors, show a small bit of humility, give credit where it was due. He didn't. He could have just shrugged off the pain of losing and told the media members he'll work hard in the off season to get better. He didn't even have to answer specifically about the fumble (a la Belichick) and keep saying it wasn't enough to win and he needs to get better.

    He didn't.

    I mentioned on the running tennis thread last year that I had a lot of respect for how Serena was handling her run up to the GS. Then she lost and turned into a petulant baby. Cam did much of the same, and it didn't have to be that way.

    He will overcome this. He will be better, but he missed a great opportunity here.

    But what do I know? I'm just a dorky white guy.
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2016
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  4. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    I don't get the inconsistent comment. BB is consistently unemotional. Cam is consistently emotional.
     
  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    I don't consider his action to be mean to the media. Just consider them churlish and immature.
    He's under no obligation to be be anything other than a player. But we've gone through a season where he was glorified as some fresh revelation of not only what the future of the QB position is in the NFL, but that Cam Newton IS a role model.
    I personally find nothing objectionable about his behavior in the press conference. He was honest. The worst thing he did was disrespect his HC by saying that nothing Rivera said after the game mattered. He's under no obligation to admit his failures, minimize his teammates' inadequencies and take the blame and then put it behind him. Doubtful many of us would act that way.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I thought it was a really bad look the first time I saw it, but I'm softening (especially after watching the video of Harris sitting right behind him talking about him). He gave some answers. Frankly those answers and the entire scene should be a reporter's dream, because that interaction shows a lot more about Newton than any corporate-speak CEO QB is going to give. Do we know more about how devastated Russell Wilson was last year because he talked for longer and in complete sentences? I don't think so.

    Newton is who he is, a highly emotional (and fairly immature, yes) 26-year-old who just lost the biggest game of his life and didn't handle it well. He did the dog-and-pony show, didn't yell at anyone, didn't threaten anyone, and then walked out too early. It's not great. It wasn't terrible, though.
     
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  7. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Yeah. I don't get the "he can't have it both ways!" argument.

    Why can't he?
     
  8. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    Jeez...he didn't say that nothing his coach said after the game mattered. He said he didn't take it to heart when Rivera pointed out that Carolina was in the same place as the Broncos were two years ago. That's not disrespecting your coach. That's just an honest reaction. "He's trying to make us feel better, but I don't. I still feel shitty." It's like when the girl you thought you'd marry breaks up with you and someone tells you there's plenty of fish in the sea. It's true, but you're too upset in the moment to care. It's not disrespectful to them that you don't take it to heart. You're devastated and you need time to mourn. There's no disrespect.
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2016
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  9. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    Or said another way, he's not trying to have it both ways. He's having it the same way. Emotional either way.
     
  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Just goes to show you "talk about" isn't the problem. It's what you ask, not how you ask it.
     
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    He should have brought his kid.
     
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  12. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    More than his press conference demeanor, I am trying to understand Cam throwing it away on 3rd and 20 late in the game (the play where he threw a tantrum after there was no flag for him getting hit).

    Why throw the ball away? Especially since they punted on fourth down?

    Much more irritating for the Panthers than his press conference.
     
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