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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I also wonder how many of those polled would keep all people from entering the U.S.
     
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    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I wonder if that's ever happened to her before.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Sounds vaguely familiar.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Boy, you just knew Killer Mike was going to stir up controversy:



    Killer Mike Quotes Activist At Bernie Rally: "A Uterus Doesn't Qualify You To Be President"
     
  8. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Clinton is also still leading every national poll over Sanders, holding huge leads in SC, and PPP released a poll of the 12 March 1 states that had her leading comfortably in 10 of them (the others were Massachusetts and Vermont).

    Sanders plays well in caucus states and the Northeast, but there still isn't a clear path to 50.1% of pledged delegates for him that doesn't involve him surging yet another 6-8 points nationally and solving a lot of his demographic problems.

    This isn't 2008 redux, though I get the appeal of the parallels. Obama had usurped Clinton as the favorite before primary season really started, and it took a surprise NH win to keep a Clinton alive. She then fought the best, most popular politician of the decade to a 49/51 loss.
     
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  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    National polls tell us something, but they change with every primary/caucus.

    If Bernie wins Nevada, that's huge. That was supposed to be a firewall for Clinton.

    Even if she swamps him in SC after losing Nevada, it opens her up to the question of whether she is the regional candidate as opposed to him.

    And the more "electable" Bernie appears, the more willing people will be open to voting for him.
     
  11. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    There is a diminishing return on momentum and Sanders is probably already there. What you are describing is a magical Christmas land where a far from center candidate just keeps going up forever in a feedback loop.

    Winning Nevada 51-49 isn't getting him tons of new voters that winning NH 60-40 and tying Iowa didn't.

    Narratives and momentum stories are fun, but as we saw in 2008, demographics and delegate math win in the end. Caucus states and the NE aren't enough, and Sanders is showing nothing outside them.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Bernie's still unfamiliar to many voters, so I'm unsure how you can determine that he's close to his ceiling.

    He has money to spend, and will continue to get greater media attention.

    If Trump continues to win GOP contests, greater focus will come to the Dem race.

    And, there is just as much anger and anti-establishment sentiment on the left as their is on the right.

    Hillary's support for the war in Iraq and her coziness with Wall St. are killers if Bernie can present himself as a credible alternative, and he's doing just that.
     
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