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Explain this to me like I'm a second-grader

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Baron, let's take one case: the spy satellite photo. That got into her server. You can bet that the originating agency had that image properly marked TS/SI/TK/NOFORN.

    So, one of two scenarios exist: 1) either it was on her server with the proper markings, which proves the lie of no classified info being on her server, OR 2) the even more sinister and disturbing scenario - someone stripped all the markings off at receiving it on the classified SIPRNET, and then moved just the image (no markings) onto the unapproved server.

    The latter is an even more egregious offense than the former. And it involves a lot of her senior aides.

    That spy satellite can convey capability of our sensors - like can we really read the letters on license plates from space. The image alone is classified. And the real question is whether or not it was properly marked. If not, how did it become unmarked? It surely left the originating agency (NRO, et al) properly marked.
     
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    1. Not a photo.

    "The compromised information did not include maps or images, but rather information that could have been derived only from spy satellite intelligence."

    2. Taken by someone who got the info, gave a summary of it to the aides, who then sent it onto Hillary. Once again, how is she supposed to know in advance that something MAY be classified. She is not a mind-reader or owns a crystal ball that sees into the future.

    "The email does not appear to have been copied directly from the classified email system and crossed what is known as the “air gap” to nonclassified computers, the sources said.

    Rather, the intelligence community believes a State Department employee received the information through classified channels and then summarized it when that employee got to a nonclassified State Departmentcomputer. The email chain went through Mrs. Clinton’s most senior aides and eventually to Mrs. Clinton’s personal email, the sources said.

    "It was not marked as classified, but whoever viewed the original source reports would have readily seen the markings and it should have been recognized clearly by a trained employee who received the information subsequently as sensitive, nonpublic information. Intelligence community professionals are trained to carry forward these markings and, if needed, request that the information be sanitized before being transmitted via non-secure means.

    Hillary Clinton emails compromised spy satellite data on North Korean nukes

     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    The analysis raises difficult questions about how the government treats sensitive information. It suggests that either material is being overclassified, as Clinton and her allies have charged, or that classified material is being handled improperly with regularity by government officials at all levels — or some combination of the two.

    The analysis did not account for 22 emails that the State Department has withheld entirely from public release because they are “top secret,” the highest level of classification.

    The handling of those emails has drawn particular criticism from Republican lawmakers and officials in the intelligence community, who have argued that Clinton’s use of a private server exposed some of the government’s most closely guarded secrets to hacking or other potential breaches.

    The FBI is investigating the security of the server and whether Clinton or her aides mishandled classified information.


    Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said the large number of people who sent and received emails that were declared classified was a sign of “overclassification run amok, and indicates that our system for determining what ought to be classified is broken.”

    Regarding Clinton’s role in writing 104 of the emails, Fallon said the classification determinations “were after-the-fact . . . for the purposes of preparing these emails for release publicly.”

    “It does not mean the material was classified when it was sent or received,” he said.
     
  5. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    I can't wait to read how Baron presents the indictment and conviction as also good things for Hillary.
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Kinda hard to indict and convict when a crime hasn't been committed.
     
  7. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Tell that to all the folks who served time or lost their careers for exactly the same thing.
     
  8. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    For having emails on their home servers that became classified years later?
     
  9. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    Save it for the road trip.
     
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  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member


    When her use of a private system was first revealed, she told reporters, “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email.” At other points, she has said that none of the emails was “marked classified” at the time she sent or received them — a point she reiterated Friday in a CNBC interview.

    But government rules require senders of classified information to properly mark it. And the inspector general for the intelligence community has said that some of Clinton’s correspondence contained classified material when it was sent — even if it was not labeled.
     
  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Which leads back to her claim that she did not have information marked classified on her server.

    Also, "government rules." LOL. If there was any violation of anything, she broke a workplace rule on her email. Hardly against the law.
     
  12. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    The spin cycle from the HRC camp on this is dizzying.
     
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