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All-purpose, running Geek thread (formerly Battlestar Galactica thread)

I think the amount of movies based on comic books has become exorbitant. And while people can point to the numbers and say, well, we're giving the people what they want, that's no reason to stop critiquing the things that are served in mass quantities.

I totally agree with this opinion and think it is something worth discussing. But this isn't what you said in the post that started the back and forth. You said you didn't get the adult attraction to comics and that you found them juvenille - on a thread populated by a lot of people who find them engaging and fulfilling. Can you see why that would at least be a little insulting to them? And why that comment would get a negative reaction?

Difference of opinion is obviously fine. It is the lifeblood of this site. But your difference of opinion wasn't one on which an actual discussion could develop, unlike your opinion about there being too many movies based on comic books. Instead, it came across as "I find the thing you like silly and childish." Again, I don't think you were being purposefully antagonistic. I guess I don't understand what the point of that post was, unless it was to say that because you don't like comics, you don't like the movies based on them and you think there are too many of them. But that isn't what you said initially.

Now I'm really not trying to get into an argument about it. I'm just trying to reasonably explain why you got the reaction you did.
 
I totally agree with this opinion and think it is something worth discussing. But this isn't what you said in the post that started the back and forth. You said you didn't get the adult attraction to comics and that you found them juvenille - on a thread populated by a lot of people who find them engaging and fulfilling. Can you see why that would at least be a little insulting to them? And why that comment would get a negative reaction?

Difference of opinion is obviously fine. It is the lifeblood of this site. But your difference of opinion wasn't one on which an actual discussion could develop, unlike your opinion about there being too many movies based on comic books. Instead, it came across as "I find the thing you like silly and childish." Again, I don't think you were being purposefully antagonistic. I guess I don't understand what the point of that post was, unless it was to say that because you don't like comics, you don't like the movies based on them and you think there are too many of them. But that isn't what you said initially.

Now I'm really not trying to get into an argument about it. I'm just trying to reasonably explain why you got the reaction you did.
Fair enough, I should have expounded on my initial post.
 
No, he was referring to me. I didn't realize in making light of comics and wrestling that I was taking aim at the two threads he populates most.
Nice. Stalking my posts now. You sure you aren't a troll, because you keep saying you aren't, and then you do things like that which suggest you are? (FYI, I've been a member of this board since almost the beginning way the heck back, and I read a lot more than I post; I run through most of the journalism board topics and add my thoughts there , too, when I feel like it. I gave up on much of the news stuff when every thread -- even some of the sports ones -- devolved into political namecalling.)

I readily admit I have a lot of "juvenile" interests like wrestling. heck, I love the Harry Potter books and even Hunger Games. My desk is covered in toys, which I don't even pretend to call "collectibles." But I also read Kafka and Dostoevsky (admittedly, neither of them in a few years) and enjoy a good play as much as a good movie. I'm an eclectic guy. But dropping in with the first post like you did was, as I said, "troll-like behavior."

And to answer your question from your earlier post, yes, playing a ton of video games is also juvenile to a lot of people. But I won't go onto the video game thread and tell everyone there that it's juvenile. I respect that that's what they're into, and I understand that there are depths to some of it that I don't get because I have only been exposed to a limited degree of it. And beause I'm not a troll.

You can make your point that the market is being saturated with comic book movies (a lot of people on here have) and say you don't get the appeal without saying they're juvenile and that comics are "art for the easily distracted." You can show respect for what other people find interesting without condescending. There are comics where the artwork inside could be hanging in museums, and while most of them are just light entertainment, there are plenty that are serious literature. One of the most critically acclaimed writers of the last few decades, Neil Gaiman, got his start in comics, and his writing is just as prosaic in comics as it is in his novels. You clearly have a very limited experience with comic books. That's not to say you would like them, but if you can't look at something like "Trillium," where the art was done in watercolor and had an insane amount of depth, and see that there's an art to it that you just don't get, then you're just being obstinate.

And bottom line, if you don't like comic book movies, don't go to them. If enough people agree with you, they'll stop making them just like they did with Westerns.
 
You're right, I did call it juvenile. I stand by that, whether it sounds condescending or not. I'm as judgmental as the next guy. I think it's art for the easily distracted. But yeah, just ignore the people who don't agree with you...

So don't claim it was just a difference of opinion. You posted on the geek thread for the simple purpose of insulting most of the people who post here. That is trolling.

There is nothing wrong with the argument that there are too many movies based on comic books now. I disagree, but it is certainly a worthwhile discussion. It was your approach that caused the backlash, not the difference of opinion.
 
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Doesn't bother me. I like what I like and ignore what I don't.
My wife likes comic books even more than I do.
 
I really enjoyed it, and I plan on seeing it again.

There are too many variations on the characters and too many people with their idea of what the "right" take on these characters is. It will never be possible to please everyone. Even Marvel doesn't hit a home run every time out. I liked Iron Man Three, Thor: The Dark World, and Ant-Man, and they seem to be pretty divisive.

My favorite take on Batman was the Nolan films, but it doesn't mean it's the only "right" take. I liked Affleck's Batman fine.
 
Awww, it's okay. People love Ant-Man, too. Not quite as much as Deadpool, but they do.
You were wrong about Ant-Man and you can't man up and just admit it.
You're such an argumentative fork you'd argue with a scale right after you stepped off it.
 
You were wrong about Ant-Man and you can't man up and just admit it.
You're such an argumentative fork you'd argue with a scale right after you stepped off it.

I never said Ant-Man would fail, so if I said I was wrong, I'd be lying. I leave that to you.
 

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