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If Clinton doesn't believe in a mental health exception to late term abortions, she's done nothing to set the record straight.

Politifact says she includes the exception:

We found many instances of Clinton saying abortion should be "safe, legal and rare." In short, Clinton is open to restrictions on late-term abortions provided there are exceptions for the life and health of the mother. This includes both mental health and medical complications like preeclampsia, a pregnancy complication of high blood pressure that could lead to death.

Marco Rubio says Hillary Clinton supports abortions 'even on the due date'

 

I'm pretty sure the Democrats weren't ever going to or planning to get the anti-abortion/social conservative crowd vote, so why does or should any of this matter to HRC?

 

Because YankeeFan wants an answer!

But not on this until after she addresses Bill's behavior of 30 years ago.

 

It seems fair game to me to point out what you have to support if you don't want Herself calling you an "abortion extremist."

 

Huh? Who exactly cares?

 

It's actually quite fascinating.

It appears that it's not easy to track down the leading Democratic presidential candidate's position on what exemptions should exist in a late term abortion ban.

How is that possible? How is this not on the record? Why has no reporter sought to clear this up? (Aside from right wing press, which can't get an interview, or a reply from her campaign.)

Clinton did not define "health," and supporters of a right to abortion have typically defined health exceptions so broadly--to include "mental and emotional" health--that any restriction on late-term abortion would be rendered meaningless. (In 2008, Barack Obama endorsed late-term abortion bans without a mental health exception, but quickly backtracked.)

So would Secretary Clinton support any federal law restricting late-term abortion? If so,how many weeks old must an unborn child be for the law to protect her? Must any restriction on late-term abortion include a "mental and emotional" health exception? And does Clinton still support taxpayer-funded elective abortions for Medicaid recipients?

THE WEEKLY STANDARD emailed Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill to get answers to these questions on Wednesday afternoon. But 48 hours later, Clinton's spokesman, who has responded to questions from TWS in the past, still has not replied.

Hillary Clinton Won't Spell Out Position on Late-Term Abortion

 

How do you determine she's not an extremist, if we don't know her position?

Hell, I'd be interested to hear Baron answer the question(s). He's not EXTREME either!!

 

Obama was briefly tripped up on this in 2008.

President Obama took one position, when speaking to Christian magazine (LOL):

Last week, Obama told a Christian magazine: "I have repeatedly said that I think it's entirely appropriate for states to restrict or even prohibit late-term abortions as long as there is a strict, well-defined exception for the health of the mother. Now, I don't think that 'mental distress' qualifies as the health of the mother."

Obama's Abortion Obfuscations

But, that position didn't last long:

"My only point is this -- historically I have been a strong believer in a women's right to choose with her doctor, her pastor and her family. And it is ..I have consistently been saying that you have to have a health exception on many significant restrictions or bans on abortions including late-term abortions.

In the past there has been some fear on the part of people who, not only people who are anti-abortion, but people who may be in the middle, that that means that if a woman just doesn't feel good then that is an exception. That's never been the case.

I don't think that is how it has been interpreted. My only point is that in an area like partial-birth abortion having a mental, having a health exception can be defined rigorously. It can be defined through physical health, It can be defined by serious clinical mental-health diseases. It is not just a matter of feeling blue. I don't think that's how pro-choice folks have interpreted it. I don't think that's how the courts have interpreted it and I think that's important to emphasize and understand."

According to Linda Douglass, the Obama campaign's senior spokesperson, the senator from Illinois was making a distinction in the magazine interview between medically diagnosed mental illness and the kind of mental distress that an unwanted pregnancy causes many a pregnant mother.

"Mental distress is not an illness." Douglass said. "He absolutely believes and has always said there has to be a health exception for serious physical and mental illness."

Obama backs late, mental-health abortion: The Swamp

Of course, no Dem has ever proposed language like this:

But the law today also covers some women who are in "mental distress," those women who would suffer emotional and psychological harm without an abortion.

Obama's Abortion Obfuscations

Do any Dems for instance support the language in the Florida legislation?

 

Yeah, why should the public know where she stands on the issue, especially if her answer might prove divisive to Dems?

 

She's been extraordinarily clear on the issue.

 

OK. So, is she for a mental health exemption to late term abortion bans or not, and if she is, how does she define it?

 

What is inconsistent there?