Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Smart move by Hillary:

 

There have been some attempts by restaurants to adopt a "the price is the price" model, but they haven't been all that successful. Not that they won't be, it's just that they haven't been.

It's a long-embeddeded custom, propped up in part by our irrationality when it comes to prices. There's a reason so much of what we buy is priced at $X.99.

 

Haven't some restaurant owners/chefs come out against tipping recently?

 

Yes. And it's had mixed results. Some have abandoned it.

But, that's not what this is about. Hillary is proposing that tipped employees receive the minimum wage, not a lower wage that is now allowed.

 

That's not a good thing.

I think most people have had enough of all these costs being passed on to them.

I also think most people tip better when they don't feel ripped off by the price of the meal.

Not arguing for or against anything, just saying "pass it on to the customer" is getting really old.

 

Yeah, I get that. The line of conversation made me think of it.

 

Well, those are the kinds of calculations reataurant owners will need to make. If they piss off too many customers with higher meal prices, or inadequate service because they cut jobs, they'll risk losing business.

Customers aren't powerless in the equation. They can decide to eat fewer meals at restaurants or be more discerning about those restaurants they choose.

All things considered, I don't think employers should be able to pay wait staff a sub-minimum wage because they recieve tips. It doesn't make sense.

 

Except the customer already is paying it. Instead of paying $20 for a meal and giving a $3 tip, the price becomes $23, and the customer is under no obligation to pay a tip unless they want to.

 

In fast-food places, employees make minimum wage and usually don't get tips. The main difference in their job and that of a restaurant server is that they don't bring the food to you. Everything else (take order, take money, hand out food) is the same job. And yet, the minimum wage is built into the price of the food.

 

The Pig: Oh thank heaven for 9/11.

Donald Trump Remembers 7-Eleven Like It Was Yesterday

 

Well, that's really not what happens (in theory and in general practice). Businesses don't really pay employees; customers do. And generally businesses act as the sole market-makers for labor in the labor-customer transaction. For a variety of reasons (few of which make any real sense), in the restaurant industry businesses handle only a portion of the transaction.

 

That was no slip of the tongue.

Trump's dogging it. He doesn't want to win, but he doesn't want to pull out either.