Second Amendment rights exercised in Orlando

It's California, so "loony toon quasi-cult" is a pretty good guess.

 

Could very well be.

Apologists like to say, but he drank/went to strip clubs/was gay as evidence that Islam couldn't be the motivating factor.

It can be if you're trying to save your soul.

 

If he was gay, is it possible that it wasn't a hate crime? More like San Bernardino than Charleston?

 

"Look, it was dark in the club, and they had told me they were going to be there."

 

Didn't a lot of the 9/11 hijackers drink and go to strip clubs?

 

The one way to make up for living as your religion's most vile type of person is to die as its most revered.

 

Given this guy's apparent background and the facts that are coming out about him, I think it's all related, and, as I said earlier, a particularly complicated case. I think guns, Mateen's Islamic beliefs, his apparent, self-styled support of terrorism against the U.S., and whatever personal demons he had were all factors.

 

It is a wild story. Someone should start a thread.

 

Exactly. Major Hassan too.

 

I'm still wrapping my head around this thought and working it out, but doesn't the way this attack went down underscore the relative lack of a domestic terrorism threat in this country?

Put another way, one guy easily purchased two high-powered firearms a couple of weeks ago. He takes a couple of weeks to train with them, then kills 50 people. If there are so many domestic terrorists out there, why doesn't this happen more often?

 

Exactly. These guys weren't devout believers, they had serious mental health issues and were looking for a glorified way out.

 

9/11 took quite a bit of planning and training. Though this Mateen guy may have real issues, I doubt you would trust that 9/11 plot on a handful of guys whose chief qualification was serious mental health issues.