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Second Amendment rights exercised in Orlando

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Judging by your last few posts, I thought making shit up is what we were doing here.
     
  2. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You surely have some kind of plan. What a piece of it?
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Facebook knows if your relationship is going to end before you do.

    Especially if this guy -- and the Boston Bomberd, and the San Bernardino killer -- had already landed on the FBI's radar, I have to believe that we could use Big Data and algorithms to predict if he had further radicalized, and become an imminent threat.

    From his web history, to his gun purchase, it would be clear if we were paying attention.

    Hell, how do we not know who's watching al-Alwaki videos?

    Shouldn't the FBI be building authentic looking sites, that host his videos, and be tracking down the viewers?

    If Google is serving up ads for body armor, based on your web history of visiting Jihadi websites, and also researching guns and body armor, shouldn't an alarm go off somewhere?
     
  4. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    You want Obama or Hillary Clinton running that?
     
  5. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Let me point out, you are criminalizing legal behavior. Where's the freedom of speech and freedom of association? Illegality of prior restraint? Censorship?

    Hey, government says you cannot read that! Cannot go to that website?

    This is lazy government. Do not criminalize innocent behavior, that's not the USA that I was socialized into since I was born here.

    We are supposed to arrest someone when they do something criminal, not when they read something we do not like. You know why I am railing against this? Because in Constitutional Law I read the history of our country where we criminalized what is supposed to be innocent, legal behavior and its simply wrong, but also because it never eliminated the behavior that was desired. Labor movement, civil rights movement, Japanese Internment, the anti-Muslim sentiment is the very same thing. Do we not learn from our past mistakes.
     
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  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    It's already being run on all of us.

    If Facebook is recommending Anwar al-Awlaki as a friend, you might be a terrorist.

    If Google is showing you ads for body armor, you might be a terrorist.

    If you subscribe to ISIS' YouTube channel, you might be a terrorist.

    If you hit these metrics, and buy semi-automatic weapons, we should know about it.

    Now, add in things like travel or phone calls to the Middle East, and/or wire transfers from the Middle East, and we should definitely know.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Just wait until one of us frantically googles something to use in one of our posts on here that the government considers non-kosher.
     
  8. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    What does this mean?

    Anyway, I didn't realize people were not allowed to express concerns (and mock ignorance) unless they had a detailed policy proposal prepared.

    If you want to ignore and equivocate in response to the obvious threat of Islamic extremism, you just make the legitimate debate that is needed even more difficult. That's why the president's avoidance of the issue is detrimental to anything getting done stateside -- whether it be expanded gun controls (I could go for if the language was done carefully), a greater emphasis on law enforcement information gathering/sharing/investigating (need a much stronger foundation in identifying terrorism suspects), stricter immigration laws (adjustments in immigration policy are as old as immigration policy itself), etc.. Obama's semantics allow liberals to hide behind political correctness, a significant modern-day danger in itself. Just look at what the Democrats are doing right now. This sit-in is pandering nonsense. They are perfectly happy to exploit the latest massacre to ignore due process and try to force unconstitutional gun legislation. God forbid we string a couple words together that might offend, but, uh, no offense, we'd prefer to deny you a fundamental right.

    And the Republicans aren't helping by taking the same approach on the privacy side.

    It's not easy to make drastic changes the way our system is set up. Generally, that's a wonderful thing. But it has essentially stripped the will of anyone in the executive or legislative branches to get anything done. It's easier to run to opposing corners and lob grenades. Really, how different do you think the debate is in D.C. are from the debates here?

    You're a man of faith, Alma, how much faith do you have that ANYTHING of substance will be done to address the terrorism/gun issues?
     
  9. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    A few dozen Congressmen just took to their fainting couches.
     
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Lots of foreign born individuals attempting to commit terror here @Dick Whitman:

     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Not any one action would warrant an investigation.
     
  12. Iron_chet

    Iron_chet Well-Known Member

    Hutterites here also great bakers, always at the Farmers Market I frequent. I am told that the sausage they make is also very tasty although I have not tried it. Friend of mine was a teacher where there was a big Hutterite colony nearby. She was kept in baking, preserves, honey for 3 years and would share the bounty when I visted. All of it delicious.
     
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