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Explain this to me like I'm a second-grader

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    It's too funny. For years, we've been told how smart this woman is, but now, we let her off because she's just too unsophisticated to know better.

    And, what about her aides? Maybe some of this isn't what the SoS is concentrating on, and she relies on her aides to help her.

    OK. So, I guess Huma, and Chery Mills, and Jake Sullivan are all unsophisticated in this way too.



     
  2. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Petraeus in trouble for "far less" Give me a fucking break.
     
  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Could also be that Comey is making his recommendation from the environment that led to the ridiculous overclassification of documents in the first place.
     
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  4. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Sheesh ... even though you called me -- Me! Of all people! -- a douche ...

    1) LTL suggested that perhaps if everyone could agree that she's been, essentially, reprimanded, we could move on.
    2) I suggested that the cheering around here suggests there's no way that idea would be widely agreed-upon.
    3) You popped up by pointing out that she hadn't been reprimanded.
    4) I alerted LTL to your post as proof of my contention.

    Now go find some other reason to call me a douche.
     
  5. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Sure. Everyone knows the rules don't apply to you if you're in charge.
     
  6. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    I don't think I'll have any trouble.
     
  7. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Different rules apply to people with different levels of responsibility. That's how it works in big-kid world.
     
  8. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Bingo. Seven "top secret" e-mails about drone strikes that everyone knew about and one about a conversation with the president of Malawi. She may have been trying to bore the hackers to death.

    Hillary’s Email Scandal Showed Only That She’s Slippery. We Already Knew That.

    As anyone who’s ever had a security clearance will tell you, the labels secret and confidential mean next to nothing. When I worked on Capitol Hill in the late 1970s, the government gave me a secret clearance on my first day of work, pending the investigation into my worthiness to hold a top secret badge. As far as anyone knew, I might have been a Soviet spy, carting out confidential and secret documents every night and making copies for my handler. But they also knew the risk was low because there was nothing in those documents that the Soviets would have paid a dime for. The same is true of our various adversaries and stuff marked secret today.

    Top secret information is another matter, but the stuff that showed up in Clinton’s private email wasn’t so special. Seven of the eight email chains dealt with CIA drone strikes, which are classified top secret/special access program—unlike Defense Department drone strikes, which are unclassified. The difference is that CIA drones hit targets in countries, like Pakistan and Yemen, where we are not officially at war; they are part of covert operations. (Defense Department drone strikes are in places where we are officially at war.) But these operations are covert mainly to provide cover for the Pakistani and Yemeni governments, so they don’t have to admit they’re cooperating with America. Everyone in the world knows about these strikes;nongovernment organizations, such as New America, tabulate them; newspapers around the world—including the New York Times, where some of the same reporters are now writing so breathlessly about Clinton’s careless handling of classified information—cover these strikes routinely.

    The other top secret email chain described a conversation with the president of Malawi. Conversations with foreign leaders are inherently classified.
     
  9. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Duh. I noted along time ago that Comey said exactly that. And that's why I suggested the follow-up question should be whether he would re-hire such a person or recommend such a person be hired for a job requiring a security clearance or involving the handling of classified material. Because that's what Hillary is asking us to do.

    Get it?
     
  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Really? I'm glad to hear there are certain people who are allowed to mishandle classified material. That's a comforting thought.
     
  11. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Of course, my understanding is these rules were most certainly supposed to apply to her.
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    If sharing information that could be considered classified bothers you this much, you'd better not ever look into how the sausage is made in Washington. *Everybody* does it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan

    Now that I've linked that, we are participating in a Top Secret conversation *right now*.
     
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