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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    It'll take willful stubbornness for many conservatives, based on last night's speech, to vote for Trump. Willful. Not a word on abortion? A denunciation of free trade? A repudiation of nation building?

    Again - it'll take willful stubbornness.

    But I know old guard democrats who'd vote for trump based on that speech. It basically could have been made a Sunday dinner inside a machinist's house in Pittsburgh.
     
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  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Who says Trump isn't a hands-on, details guy!?!

     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Ignorant, angry, white males will fall for that speech.

    It's funny. Only working class whites are easily manipulated by political rhetoric.
     
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  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    It was really fucking surreal to watch, starting with Ivanka's introduction that appeared to be plagiarized from Lena Dunham's upcoming DNC speech. I'm not saying it was bad. He clearly took the task seriously. But other than the law and order stuff lifted from the mid-'80s, that was not a Republican speech.
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I don't think that's what Alma is saying at all. He's saying that the speech was directly pitched to them, the long-time Democratic base, and earnestly.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah. And, it could work because they're ignorant.

    Working class whites will vote "against their self interest" because they're angry and racist, and find a "strong man" appealing.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    What would the parallel to Peter Theil's RNC speech be for the DNC?

    "I'm proud to be pro-life. I'm proud to be a Democrat. But most of all, I'm proud to be an American."

    Can anyone imagine such a speech at the DNC, let alone it getting a standing ovation?

    Can anyone imagine Hillary being confident enough to allow a Ted Cruz like speech at her convention?
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Voting against free trade is not voting "against their self-interest." Quite the contrary, which is the point. The wedge social issues like abortion is what Republicans were accused of using to get people to vote "against their self-interest." The point is that Trump has abandoned the "What's the Matter With Kansas?" strategy and is now appealing very much to the self-interest of the working class.
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Oh, yeah. I'm sure Trump signed off on Cruz's speech.
     
  10. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    More like working class whites who are angry, racist, afraid and ignorant will buy into the "strong man" bullshit.
     
  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    That's because he's not a Republican.

    This campaign is about assholery, not Republican or conservative ideals.
     
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  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    He knew he was allowing his top competitor, who had not endorsed him, to speak in prime time.

    Think Bernie gets that without endorsing Hillary? LOL. It's too funny to even imagine.
     
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