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He didn't advocate for them doing it now. He basically stated common knowledge that they've already done it -- BECAUSE OF HER CARELESSNESS!!!! -- so we might as well at least get to see what she tried to hide from our own FBI. And, again, why was she hiding them?

 

It's unthinkable that any politician, or political party, would accept, let alone solicit Russian meddling in a presidential election:

Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times, came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy.

“On 9-10 May of this year,” the May 14 memorandum explained, “Sen. Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.” (Tunney was Kennedy’s law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) “The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.”

Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers.

First he offered to visit Moscow. “The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA.” Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda.

Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. “A direct appeal … to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. … If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. … The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side.”

Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time–and that they rigged the arrangement to look like honest journalism.

Kennedy’s motives? “Like other rational people,” the memorandum explained, “[Kennedy] is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations.” But that high-minded concern represented only one of Kennedy’s motives.

“Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988,” the memorandum continued. “Kennedy does not discount that during the 1984 campaign, the Democratic Party may officially turn to him to lead the fight against the Republicans and elect their candidate president.”

Kennedy proved eager to deal with Andropov–the leader of the Soviet Union, a former director of the KGB and a principal mover in both the crushing of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and the suppression of the 1968 Prague Spring–at least in part to advance his own political prospects.

Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit - Forbes

 

YF, keep plugging. It's getting more obvious that Trump will be declaring "all underwear to be worn on the outside" by Columbus Day.

 

Old news but completely unsurprising.

 

Try as you might, the Democratic Party is incapable of shame.

 

If Russia or any other country — or possibly Anonymous — has access to
Donald Trump's tax returns, they should share them!

 

There's a better chance the IRS leaks them than there is the Russians do.

 

It's pretty funny. The Russian military -- like the Chinese -- have units designated to electronic espionage.

This is what they do. They're not doing it because Donald Trump is encouraging them. If Hillary, or the DNC, had emails improperly secured, the Russians likely have them.

And, if they do have them, isn't it better that they release them now, embarrassing a candidate Clinton vs. having them in their possession on the day President Clinton is sworn in, when they'd be able to blackmail her, use them as leverage, or release them, and upend her presidency?

 

Or his private stash of nude videos of Ivanka dating back to the cradle.

 

We?

 

I don't know about the IRS, but the intelligence community, ours that is, might. They are among Trump's strongest if quiet (force of habit) opponents, and I don't think scruples or the US Code would stop them if they thought it had to be done.

 

No, it's better to do that later, because then we'll get President Kaine.