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1 in 4 U.S. teachers are chronically absent

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    And I still think people who haven't had kids shouldn't have to pay school taxes since we've done nothing to add strain to the system. I'll be happy to listen to your gripes when they start paying attention to mine.
     
  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    While we are at it, starting school at 8ish is really bad for children's natural sleep cycle and is probably holding our national education performance back a ton.
     
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  3. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    The point is it's all negotiated and agreed upon by the parties involved.
     
  4. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    And how about a national school uniform so the kids at my local bus stop don't look like a police lineup anymore.
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Sure, if you can find the teachers. We do already have a shortage.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    But public employee unions are different from your personally negotiated agreement. I'm a taxpayer, but I have very little say in our teachers' pay and benefit package. Certainly not as much say as the union that picks and finances its slate of candidates.
     
  7. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Sure you do. Get militant union-busters and hard-ass contract negotiators to run for the school board and elect them. Problem solved.

    Although your teacher-shortage problem may not be.
     
  8. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    So, your beef is with "management," not "labor," so to speak.
     
  9. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I don't actually have a beef. I jumped in here at the suggestion that 10 extra days of PTO would be a good idea. I don't think that's even a negotiated benefit, so upon review we might be arguing something that doesn't exist.

    The solution YF proposes -- firing teachers en masse -- clearly is a non-starter because then you wouldn't have enough teachers to staff the school. But the idea that teachers don't have enough time off is a little far-fetched.
     
  10. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I think I prefaced my two-weeks suggestion by saying I'm not sure what the norm is, but even still, two weeks doesn't seem unreasonable if you're operating under the assumption that most teachers don't take time off unless they have to.

    If you're assuming the opposite, I can see how you'd be against more PTO.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Would it really be en masse?

    You put people on notice that going forward, unexcused absences will not be tolerated, and will result in termination.

    Unexcused absences would drop. And, those that continued to not show up for work need to be fired.
     
  12. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    I might have missed it, but I don't think anyone said that. People are just (correctly) pointing out that they can't be expected to pack all their life events into the summer.

    On another note, shoutout to my teacher aunt's old sweatshirt: "Three reasons to be a teacher - June, July and August."
     
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